Pericles, you wrote:

<Perhaps, Glen C, if you cannot frame the question without a sneer, you should consider whether you might be asking the wrong question. As far as I can tell, your entire article led to the final line...]>

You seem very pleased with your conclusion that I framed my question with a sneer but you've not demonstrated that I did. I never felt any need to sneer or any need to justify asking the question whose asking upsets you so much. Do you regard raising objections to firmly held beliefs as necessarily sneering or are they only sneering when the firmly held beliefs are religious?

And is there anything wrong with preceding a final question by establishing relevant premises? It's done quite often.

<What did you consider to be the purpose of that question when you wrote it, other than to make the "parent and believer" feel really, really small, their beliefs having been smashed to smithereens on the pulpit of your superciliously-delivered logic?>

The purpose of the question was to give people who are agonising over whether to reject the beliefs they were indoctrinated in one more reason for feeling that it's OK to do so. It was one attempt to counter the indoctrination such people have had visited upon them by religious proselytisers for centuries, and still do. Am I not allowed even one small word of encouragement to them?

And is the pertinence of a logical objection to be judged by whether you feel it was posed superciliously? You seem to be carefully avoiding engaging with whether the question was a good one. You seem more interested in finding fault with me than with it.

I notice, though, your prediction that my question will lead to "their beliefs having been smashed". Do you really think it was that good?

Continued…

aga,

<<Sure we are not descended from two first parents? Heard of genetics or Mitochondrial Eve?>>

Ever heard of Mitochondrial Adam? He lived about 90,000 years later than Mitochondrial Eve.

How does that fit into the “strong scientific bone” religion has?

The first female ancestor common to all mankind - that you’re actually thinking of - would probably have been a fish of some sort, but Mitochondrial Eve is just the most recent common matrilineal female ancestor. Our most recent common patrilineal male ancestor came so much later because males have historically been more promiscuous.

So how did God create Eve from the rib of someone he create 90,000 years later?

<<...first read the scientific articles of Michael Behe, Antony Flew and co.>>

Behe's 'irreducible complexity' has been debunked numerous times and Flew's blown-out-of-proportion conversion to Deism was basically a God of the Gaps fallacy.

runner,
You stated, "The way evolutionist have to shut their eyes daily in order to repeat the mantra ('their is no god ') to themselves pitiful. Design and order stare them in the face daily".

No we don't. Most of us hold our heads up high and thank our forefathers of millions of years ago for their fortitude in a dangerous world.

What you cannot accept is that we live on a planet composed largely of the debris from the supernova collapse of an earlier sun. We orbit a star at 106,000 km per hour and that star, our sun, is only about 4.5billion years old in a universe 14.7 billion years old.

In the early 60's Robert Ardrey assembled 24 parallel lines of evidence showing that Australopithecus africanus was armed with weapons while hunting for his meat some 4 million years ago.

No one has ever managed to undermine the great majority of those lines of evidence. Australopithecines were the forerunners of the early Homo species and I for one am happy that they managed to pass on their genes.

How is it possible, in 2013, that humans are still talking about a mythical being or beings called 'God'?

I mean, when we lived in caves and knew nothing, there was some excuse for believing in all manner of scary things like ghosts, gods and devils.

But for Pete's sake, why has it continued into an era where we have space travel and MacDonalds restaurants? Why in an era where we can create life and transplant hearts are people still believing in the equivalent of fairies at the bottom of the garden and Santa?

Quite obviously, humans are retarded. We are surrounded by reality but we can't grasp it or accept it. So the religious fraudsters continue to have a field day and always will it seems. Even when they molest our children people still flock to hear the duplicitious words from the pulpit or the equivalent thereof.

It's time to grow up, folks. We no longer have any excuse to, like children, cling to silly superstitions.

There is no 'god'. There is no life after death and singing hymns forever (how boring that would be)!

Embrace reality. Put 'god' in the trashcan. Make the most of what life is instead of deluding yourself about some mythical afterlife!

Let's make the most of the here and now, make it as pleasant as possible for each other.

I find the idea of lots of Gods much more interesting just having one, that just seems a bit boring. If we are going to have souls it makes more sense in this enlighten age to recycle them.
Any way here is list of questions:-

Who created God ?

Why create such an impossible huge universe just for humans ? what happened to the KISS principle ?

What was the problem with dinosaurs ?

After being around for a few hundred million years they got knocked on the head. Humans have been around for maybe two or three million years or if we want to take the bible literally less than 10,000 years.

So what was the original plan ?

Warmair, man created God in his image. End of story. Thanks for your questions.

What most people forget is that this religious nonsense is not just an intellectual exercise because, currently, it is leading to a situation where one group of religious fanatics called Israeli Jews is pleading with another group of serial warmongers called Christian Americans to help them to drop nuclear weapons on an Islamic Nations called Iran.

So we seem to be perched on the edge of nuclear extinction all over mythical, anachronistic religious beliefs!

It is insane.