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Save Hazaras before it is too late : Comments

By Abdul Hekmat, published 18/1/2013

Terrorist attacks on Hazaras in Quetta have surprisingly had little or no coverage in the Australian media.

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Saltpeter,

With your high blown rhetoric, lacking any practical solution/s to the issue at hand, don't you find your "nom de plume" ironic? An ancient, essential ingredient of gunpowder!

I don't suggest that I have the answer/s to the actual issue at hand here, but what I do know is that these "refugees", having created the problems from which they "flee", invariably head to the liberal, democratic, West, knowing that we're a soft touch. I don't see any "traffic" headed in the opposite direction!

I've made my point; last post.
Posted by Rattler, Saturday, 19 January 2013 10:29:26 PM
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Diver, I hate to disillusion you, but mine is not an atheistic mantra, but rather a mantra of tolerance, and certainly not one-way tolerance - where the meek and the compassionate are continually preyed upon by the unscrupulous - but a universal system of tolerance based on the principles of universal human rights, the sanctity of life, and the incontrovertible tenet that all men (and women) are created equal.

Do we, as a rule, determine to remain 'beasts', or would we rather aspire to peaceful and constructive coexistence, given half a chance? (And, is not religious intolerance a form of baseness?) Would we automatically hate our neighbour, unless we were taught to focus on difference?

A renaissance is needed in human affairs, and diplomacy is surely a more acceptable and constructive avenue towards a 21st Century 'Golden Age' than interminable warfare, alienation and dispossession. It appears clear that Humanity faces an enormous task of reformation, reconciliation and renewal, but it remains uncertain when we may have the will or sufficient incentive to embark on such a demanding project. Perhaps only the brink of the abyss may bring mankind to its senses.

I pity the plight of the Hazaras, but theirs is the merest tip of an enormous iceberg of inequity, intolerance and injustice, and in a world whose prospects and possibilities have never been more promising - excepting for a lack of basic humanity.
Posted by Saltpetre, Sunday, 20 January 2013 3:13:59 AM
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Saltpetre:

...Eugenics or breading for a purpose, (but who’s purpose)? Is the ultimate answer to war. Part one of the program must begin, (and has already begun in the West), by feminising men! (Some fools believe).

...The political arm of the “Bene Gesserit” is evident also in the West! Look around: Should I dare mention Lieutenant Julia Gillard and her love affair with the “Golden Path”; a world of female domination surrounded by the effeminate male underling!

...Is there hope for the male of the species? There is hope yet for the continuation of male dominance, but in war alone will it prosper
Posted by diver dan, Sunday, 20 January 2013 9:57:10 AM
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It is a total waste of time worrying about what has been going on in
that whole Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iran and most parts of the Middle
East until they abandon the practise of generation after generation
marrying their cousins.

They have developed behaviour practices that are built in and it also
seems to have affected their ability to negotiate and compromise.

They need to introduce new gene strains into their populations and then
after a few generations perhaps we could look at them differently.
Posted by Bazz, Sunday, 20 January 2013 3:09:22 PM
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So what if expats go to safe countries and are blown up or killed in accidents or get caught up in violence they cannot control? Will the racist dingbats here claim they are bad too?

And the Lebanese people were not at war until Israel attacked them so why wouldn't Lebanese people be there for holidays?

Fair dinkum, some people in this country are so blind and ridiculous.

Australia is contributing to and assisting in the murder and genocide of Hazara as was discovered long ago.

When the taliban took over and displaced 3 million in the Swat Valley we didn't send aid, we sent AFP and spies to stop refugees leaving.

http://www.theglobalmail.org/feature/the-refugee-deathtrap/518/

It might come as a real shock to the bogans here but we do not have any right to do these things, we are the only country in the world who does them, we get people slaughtered and then we jail those who get here.

But if people want to go back and help their families that is none of your business, they do not deserve to be killed for doing it.

I sometimes think many Australian's like living in their selfish little ignorant bubbles and those ignorant little bubbles are nurtured by our racist leaders.
Posted by Marilyn Shepherd, Sunday, 20 January 2013 4:29:16 PM
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Hazaras do appear as a people apart, with no safe haven no matter where they turn. It also appears that they might well be classified as 'moderate' Muslims. If this assessment is reasonably accurate, then there could be good reason for our immigration authorities to look into the possibility of offering preference to this minority in our immigration program.

I have no particular knowledge of this minority, but a number of news reports, including the one linked by Marilyn Shepherd in her above posting, indicate that ethnic Hazaras are singled out for 'special' treatment by various 'militias', in both Afghanistan and Pakistan (and possibly elsewhere). Reason enough I think for our authorities to look more thoroughly into their plight, with a view to diplomatic efforts to improve their prospects abroad, as well as into possible justification for an 'express' refugee processing provision for members of this oppressed minority.

We would have no wish to import 'radical' elements, but reasonable efforts to aid a moderate Muslim community in need of our assistance would be a worthwhile humanitarian act, and could well improve our image and reputation within the broader Islamic community, both at home and abroad. It would be prudent of course to consult with our resident Muslim leaders in this regard, before proceeding with any indicated immigration action.(Their response(s) may also tell us something worth knowing about their own preferences - or 'prejudices'.)

Worth considering? Although We currently have some employment 'issues', one 'solid' and gainfully employed refugee could do a lot to improve the situation of his/her relatives abroad.

'Good example', I feel, has a far better chance of altering and improving attitudes than sanctions or intimidation ever could, and we should all be well aware that some huge attitude shifts will be required before 'Utopia' could ever become even a blip on the horizon of this ever-so-troubled world.
Posted by Saltpetre, Monday, 21 January 2013 3:48:05 AM
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