So Steve Jobs was a barbarian, and Stalin, Mao, etc were not?

I see you have to redefine the English language to sustain your fantasy.

Banjo, this may also prove to be helpful:

"The Lies Of Democracy and the Language Of Deceit

By Colin Todhunter

January 18, 2013 "Global Research" -- In an increasingly media-driven age, language is everything and is often used by officialdom to tyrannise meaning. With the deaths of millions on its hands since 1945, the US has become the world’s number one terror state. By the 1980s, former CIA man John Stockwell had put the figure at six million. As a recent article has indicated, from mass bombing in Southeast Asia to employing death squads in South America, the US military and the CIA have been directly and indirectly responsible for an updated figure of an estimated ten million deaths (1)."

And my apologies re an incorrect link in my previous comment. It should be:

http://informationclearinghouse.info

>>the US military and the CIA have been directly and indirectly responsible for an updated figure of an estimated ten million deaths<<

Which is a lot. But Stalin was responsible for 20 million deaths and Mao for 40 million:

http://necrometrics.com/20c5m.htm

So it seems that capitalism - despite it's flaws - is not as deadly as communism. I think that's an important consideration when comparing the relative merits of various economic systems.

Cheers,

Tony

But Tony, keep in mind that the 20 million figure is only a guess-timate and takes no account of issues like the deaths and birth abnormalities arising from Agent Orange and Depleted Uranium, etc.

And given that the Yanks refuse to count civilian casualties (because they don't want the world to know the extent of their world-wide genocide), the figure of 20 million is highly likely to be much, much higher.

However, I think that comparing economic systems on the basis of how many people were or were not killed is ridiculous.

Economics is tied up with politics and the U.S. uses war to provide impetus to its flagging economic system. It makes arms and floods the world with them lubricating and enabling endless wars. It engages in endless invasions, occupations and plundering.

The world will never know peace while the U.S. exists. They are a nation of killers!

WmTrevor,
you're right, I should have noted the publication details, though I don't presume to infer too much from your comments here or elsewhere. You seem to take a Wildean approach to things and I can certainly relate to that. I wear my opinions on my sleeve, as what good are they if they don't confront closed minds and provoke debate? I might end up cherishing them, whereas I'm a humble student of life and only want to test them.
I can't help thinking an ironical perspective is an abnegation of responsibility, especially when held by privileged westerners whose nihilism tends to be droll rather than sincere.

Shadow Minister,
I confess I'm not a member of the Steve Jobs fan club.
And yes, according to Arnold's argument Jobs is more of a barbarian than Stalin and Mao.
What "fantasy" do you allude to?

Watching the brash Bernard Thomic versus Federer match (only so I could admire the glitterati in the audience) it occurs to me that Arnold's modern barbarians are Greg Norman, Tiger Woods, Michael Clarke et al.
But even more than these, their Barbie Doll girlfriends.
I'm starting to think maybe Squeers is a bit of a misogynist. Well at least he despises these vacuous playmates of the rich and famous men--the way they paracitise them and soak up the vicarious celebrity status makes me want to burn my bra. Though its hard to trump one's loathing of the real thing; Shane Warne, for instance, who could "will" the flip of a coin (talent's got nothing to do with it). Judging by their lack of intimacy, I predict he and Liz Hurley are on the rocks--and what happened to his blonde locks, and his lovable beer-swilling antics?--though I can't be sure as they kept switching to the bloody tennis!
By the way, S&M, did you catch that interview with Malcolm Fraser on channel 24 this arvo? It seems he endorses David G's assessment of the US (god bless 'em), and loathes Tony Abbott beyond measure..
Who do you think the new leader will be?