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On ‘belief’ and ‘denial’ : Comments

By Don Aitkin, published 27/12/2012

Further, the doomsayers accuse old-fashioned empiricists like me of being 'deniers' or 'denialists' because we do not accept their faith.

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138 comments about Global Warming and associated issues.

What a shame that the looming nuclear war couldn't get such interest.

Perhaps as we are being vaporized we might yell out, "Damn. Why didn't someone tell us?"

I tried to!
Posted by David G, Saturday, 5 January 2013 3:48:16 PM
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Denier Predictions vs IPCC Projections

http://skepticalscience.com/graphics.php?g=72
Posted by Poirot, Saturday, 5 January 2013 6:10:24 PM
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Poirot,

Great graph...an excellent example of why you should never take an activist warmist at his word.

For those of you who can't be bothered checking the data behind the graph (and I don't blame you because its a load of old cobblers) what they do is cherry-pick out of the myriad projections in each AR the scenario that most closely fits the actual temps and then pretend that that is indeed the IPCC projection. Even then they have to manipulate the data eg for FAR they change the projection to correct for errors in the guesses about emission levels. So effectively they are saying that if you ignore all the errors in our guesses then they're pretty accurate!!

Then for the sceptics they take some random comment and assert that that is the sum total of that persons predictions. For example for Richard Lindzen they take a comment he made in 1989 (!) that he thought the earth wouldn't warm much in the next century, and then dishonestly assume that he meant it would remain unchanged throughout that time.

All pretty funny/sad really but at least it does its job, which is to fool the likes of Poirot.
Posted by mhaze, Monday, 7 January 2013 5:39:02 PM
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Just for you, mhaze,

http://planet3.org/2013/01/06/the-2012-golden-horseshoe-award-david-rose-of-the-daily-mail/
Posted by Poirot, Monday, 7 January 2013 5:50:09 PM
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Poirot takes a holiday from linking to Sks which she doesn't understand and links to a site which features Gleik, the hacker, eli the pompous bully and Schmidt who features so prominently in the emails:

http://www.ecowho.com/foia.php?search=gavin+schmidt

You've got nothing to contribute to this debate Poirot and that makes you a big part of the problem.
Posted by cohenite, Monday, 7 January 2013 10:06:05 PM
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There's really no "debate" concerning the science, cohenite. There are climate scientists who reach conclusions based on empirical evidence...and then there are people (usually non-scientists like yourself) who twist, cherry pick, ad hom and just plain deny - all the while pretending they understand the science.

Good luck with that....
Posted by Poirot, Monday, 7 January 2013 10:32:26 PM
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