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The problem of gun control: the myth of American uniqueness : Comments

By Binoy Kampmark, published 20/12/2012

The debate on gun control in the United States is a case in point, the flipside of a fictionalised form of American exceptionalism.

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Again for David G,

How can you make such sweeping statements as 'they love killing and power and have insatiable greed' and that many if not most are pyschopaths and are happy their armies are overseas killing and plundering.

Nothing, but nothing could be farther from the truth, and if you'd lived there as I did for a few years, you would realise how wrong you are!

At this time of year I remember hugely enjoying their celebration of the festive season. The decorations were awesome, and not once did I see any of the elaborate decorations vandalised.

Back here in Australia it's a very different story. If we paraded such beautiful decorations and Christmas lights, they would be stolen or destroyed.
A man spent months preparing to decorate his house for his neighborhood to enjoy at Christmas in Perth, only to have the whole lot destroyed overnight by vandals. Another had the Christmas tree stolen from his frontyard. I could give you many more examples of the brutish behaviour we endure here, and the bad reputation we have earned in places like Bali, or Europe, where ordinary Aussies have not portrayed our country in a good light - to put it mildly.

How many Aussies do you see place their hands over their hearts when our national anthem is played? I remember from my childhood hearing- Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.

And you have the temerity to call Americans names?
Posted by worldwatcher, Friday, 21 December 2012 5:57:57 PM
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I am happy that the U.S., after waiting nearly two years, got involved in in WW2, Worldwatcher.

It's what they did after that that needs to be recognized and condemned. They took over from the NAZIS!

They have killed 20-30 million people during their grab for control of the world. Are we supposed to congratulate them?

And they are using Australians to help them, and the British, anyone who is blind to their ambitions, to their lies.

As a worldwatcher, you'd make a good blacksmith!
Posted by David G, Friday, 21 December 2012 6:01:07 PM
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John Howard the consummate wedge politician knew how to make political capital out of the negative stereotyping of the US and Americans. Blaming the Port Arthur killings on a "US gun culture" was political genius.

It pulled votes from Labor and the Left, long-time haters of everything American, resulting in an election landslide for him. It also totally wiped any need for an inquiry into Port Arthur, advantaging governments including his own, that sold off government mental health and rehabilitation assets.

Almost daily there are complaints from carers whose own health is failing through lack of government support, and from relatives exasperated by their own inability to arrange urgent support or referral (to where?) for loved ones who are suffering serious problems.

There are hundreds of young students who are failing to thrive in education through depression and other problems which could become chronic conditions without assistance. All but few of those students will fall through the gaps. Student self-harm and suicide are common. Succeeding academically is no proof against problems. What secondary student doesn't have a friend who is presently self harming or is on suicide watch?

Maybe federal government ministers need to do more travel within Australia, instead of gracing the world stage, regularly disbursing millions of Aussie taxpayers' money to buy good favour and international headlines for themselves.
Posted by onthebeach, Friday, 21 December 2012 8:28:46 PM
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David G.
Just a couple of questions for you.
If as you say, Americans have taken over from the Nazis, why haven't they done what the Nazis did, and sent their people to populate the countries they want to control - as the Muslims are now doing.
Have researched the number of Americans living outside their country of birth, and the number is extremely small, which indicates americans are happy to stay in the country of their birth, although there are others who hold american passports and citizenship in a dual capacity with their original country. So they can choose to use either passport. This makes it difficult to assess the exact number of americans abroad, but I re-iterate it is a very small number - certainly not enough to class them as occupiers or controllers.

My second question is about where you have obtained the figure of 20-30 million people they have killed since the end of WW2. Would you please advise me of your source so that I may verify your figures?

You state these figures with such emphasis that I presume you are quoting from a reliable source which I will be unable to dispute. Only then can I take your figures seriously, rather than treat them as ones you have picked out of thin air.
Posted by worldwatcher, Friday, 21 December 2012 11:17:09 PM
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If you Google 'People killed by the U.S. since WW2' you'll find plenty of reference, Worldwatcher.

Happy Xmas!
Posted by David G, Saturday, 22 December 2012 6:58:49 AM
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@worldwatcher. It is not necessary to populate a country with migrants in order to control it. The Americans have over 1000 military bases worldwide. They attack countries when they want regime change and have done so since at least 1953 with Guatemala and Iran. They also exercise enormous economic power through having the world's sole reserve currency, control of the IMF and huge corporations. Read John Perkins. As to the numbers killed by them, it is hard to keep up so busily are they going about their murderous business. Read Wiliam Blum for a nice summary.
Posted by James O'Neill, Saturday, 22 December 2012 9:57:45 AM
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