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Engineering the climate: is science fiction becoming reality? : Comments

By Kerryn Brent and Jeffrey McGee, published 19/12/2012

It will be difficult for countries to resist experiments in geoengineering as it has the allure of being a relatively inexpensive and quick response to climate change impacts.

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Here's a few late arrivals for Christmas...

http://www.skepticalscience.com/Powerpoint-friendly-Christmas-cartoon.html

http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2012/12/the-heat-is-on-in-west-antarctica/

http://www.popsci.com.au/section-undetermined/what-does-a-climate-scientist-think-of-glenn-beck-s-environmental-conspiracy-novel
Posted by Poirot, Wednesday, 26 December 2012 8:53:20 AM
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Although to be "fair and balanced", I should hand the soapbox over to Lord Monckton whose commentary is a tad mind-bending for a Boxing Day morning, but concludes with the spine-tingling assertion that:

"Sandy ad Bopha, and the hot summer in the U.S. could not have been caused by global warming for the blindingly obvious reason that for 16 years there has not been any."

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012-12-25/bethlehem-and-the-rat-hole-problem/#more-76314

(Have to say the Lord Monckton is an industrious chap - having so comprehensively socked it to Doha and been deported for impersonating a delegate, he still finds time to mangle the science...to the sound of trumpets!)
Posted by Poirot, Wednesday, 26 December 2012 9:39:34 AM
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Not entirely on topic... but not off-topic either.

And an amusing antidote for any who had a less than adequate Christmas.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01mhnnm/Archive_on_4_A_Brief_History_of_Blame/
Posted by WmTrevor, Wednesday, 26 December 2012 10:13:45 AM
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After reading all the posts so far, my favourite is still Cohenite's first:

“If the clowns who wrote this article want to geoenegineer anything let them go to another planet and terraform it to suit humanity, rather than geoengineer Earth to disadvantage humanity.”

I couldn't agree more with this sentiment.
For more than a hundred years we've been digging fossil fuels from deep under the ground and -currently- turning them into 21.3 billion tonnes of CO2 a year, only about half of which can be absorbed by natural processes.
I too think this experiment would be better conducted on another planet; but then this isn't “geoengineering” at all, is it?
It's just “normal” (and convenient), therefore it must be alright.
Incidentally, it's curious those who have made such a big deal about increasing sea ice cover in the Antarctic haven't mentioned that the increase has been caused by northerly winds blowing continental ice into the sea, so total (land and sea) ice in the Antarctic is about the same or slightly diminishing. Or that Arctic sea ice is diminishing about 5 times faster than Antarctic sea ice is growing. Or that parts of the Antarctic have seen an average increase in temps of around 2.5 degrees since 1950.
Also the claim that the world has been “cooling for the past 16 years” is mystifying, when 9 out of the 10 hottest years have been in the last decade. Surely we can all appreciate the difference between a “spike” and a “trend”?
I'll concede it may be possible that the decade is a spike in a longer frame, but only history will be able to determine that. In the meantime should we not show a little more intelligence than the legendary frog in a pot?
Posted by Grim, Saturday, 29 December 2012 10:24:04 AM
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