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Make Obama do it : Comments

By Marjorie Cohn and Jeanne Mirrer, published 16/11/2012

How we get the President to do the right things are the challenges we face.

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All laudable if unattainable goals?
Obama has never been the bottle neck or the cork preventing progressive reform!
If you must make someone do it, you need to make those democrats that stood tall, as self serving roadblocks in the path of reform, like the former speaker, to just stop doing it!
And indeed, twist the arms of obstinate recalcitrant tea party types, whose entire input to date, carries with it, enormous negative economic consequences, if ever adopted!
Obama simply doesn't have the power, you seem to think he possesses.
He is a President, armed only with a veto; and not a benign dictator!
Albeit, that is exactly what America, Europe and all the other failing economies, need just now!
We Australians armed with our own unique sense of black or extremely ironic humour, would probably ask, what would Putin do?
Rhrosty.
Posted by Rhrosty, Friday, 16 November 2012 9:58:26 AM
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>>They could not forget that he [Obama] bailed out the huge banks>>

Errr,

I think you'll find that happened during the final days of the Bush administration.

See: Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergency_Economic_Stabilization_Act_of_2008

As for the rest, well this is the usual wishful thinking one expects from the self-proclaimed "progressives."
Posted by stevenlmeyer, Friday, 16 November 2012 4:03:32 PM
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The only time Romney looked like getting anywhere near the Presidency was when he attacked Obama's environmental programs. If Obama has any sense -- and he does -- he will accelerate the provision of cheap energy and industrial development which is necessary to get the US out of its economic slump, and cut back on the environmental issues as much as he possibly can without disillusioning too many of the Green Left. The fact that climate change never made it into any of the presidential campaign statements or debates is a pretty good indication of just how unimportant Obama -- like most rational people -- regards it as.
Posted by Jon J, Friday, 16 November 2012 8:11:23 PM
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So is any and every one who puts forward a progressive point of view a "self-styled" progressive. And by contrast any one who puts forward a conservative and/or right-wing point of view a disinterested 100% reliable "officially" certified truth teller.

Seems like entirely laudable goals to me.
It also seems to me that some kind of progressive politics is the only way to go too.
This reference describes the situation that occurred in the 8 years of the Bush mal-administration http://www.tomdispatch.com/post/1116 The 8 years of the Bush mal-administration were of course easily the worst 8 years in the history of the USA.
Such was the dreadful legacy that Barack obama inherited.
Romney and Co (especially via the influence of the Koch brothers) would have accelerated everything described in the above essay.

Does any reasonably sane person pretend that the dreadfully dark politics advocated by such right-wing so called conservative outfits such as The National Review, The American Spectator, First Things, or any of the multi-various outfits associated with the GOP Noise Machine offers any kind of positive future for Earthkind altogether.
Posted by Daffy Duck, Saturday, 17 November 2012 9:00:44 AM
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LOL Daffy Duck

You write

>>...is...any one who puts forward a conservative and/or right-wing point of view a disinterested 100% reliable "officially" certified truth teller.>>>

Nope. Most self-styled "conservatives" are nuts or dupes or, more usually, both.

GK Chesterton put it thus:

>>The whole modern world has divided itself into Conservatives and Progressives. The business of Progressives is to go on making mistakes. The business of the Conservatives is to prevent the mistakes from being corrected.>>
Posted by stevenlmeyer, Saturday, 17 November 2012 10:06:19 AM
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@Daffy Duck: "The 8 years of the Bush mal-administration were of course easily the worst 8 years in the history of the USA."

Worse than the Depression?

Worse than the Prohibition era?

Worse than World War I?

Worse than World War II?

Worse than 1814, when the British burnt Washington?

Worse than the Galveston Hurricane of 1900, which killed 8,000 people, and the San Francisco earthquake and fire of 1906?

Worse than the US Civil War, with an estimated 750,000 casualties?

Agreed, Bush was a pain in the arse, but your left-wing sensibilities have led you badly astray if you think his Presidency was in any way comparable to the genuine catastrophes and tragedies of the past.
Posted by Jon J, Saturday, 17 November 2012 4:38:44 PM
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