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What would Jesus say? : Comments

By Michael Hewitt-Gleeson, published 15/11/2012

Would Jesus approve of the Melbourne Roman Catholic Diocese's approach to abuse of children?

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I am sure Jesus is disgusted by both.
runner,
hard to say what would upset him more, abortions or unwanted children being neglected. After all it was his old man who apparently designed the human body so that people can't choose their children.
Posted by individual, Thursday, 15 November 2012 7:41:13 PM
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Yuyutsu,

Sorry, you lost me there completely. Speaking in tongues would possibly be clearer. You should attempt to use the English language to elucidate, not complicate.

David
Posted by Atheist Foundation of Australia Inc, Thursday, 15 November 2012 7:57:35 PM
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Dear David,

<<You should attempt to use the English language to elucidate, not complicate>>

OK, I'll try to break it down in the simplest way I can:

Whether Jesus existed or not is not important.

What is important is what Jesus stands for and how he serves and enhances the spiritual lives of his believers.

The question "what would Jesus say about X?" is meaningful despite the fact that we already know that the historical Jesus (if indeed he was historical) said nothing about the topic at hand. For the believer, however, the question becomes "how would my highest ideal, as presented by the scriptures that I try to follow, guide me in this particular case".

By the 'objective plane' I mean that specific cut in Reality which we consider 'exists' and is verifiable by science.

The question whether Jesus existed is therefore equivalent to asking whether his life intersected with the objective plane (which as above, I don't think is of much importance)

I then generalised my statement to the effect that in general, questions about the objective plane, though they tend to satisfy one's curiosity, are of less importance than questions of faith and spirit - that is because the objective plane is only a thin (singular, of 0-width in geometric terms) section within Reality.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Thursday, 15 November 2012 9:36:19 PM
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Yuyutsu,

No offence, but that is still dribble to rational people. Interchanging with religious babble is not possible in this instance.

David
Posted by Atheist Foundation of Australia Inc, Thursday, 15 November 2012 9:41:34 PM
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Dear Yuyutsu,

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"Isn't tearing up the body, or parts thereof, away from the soul, equivalent to tearing up the soul from the body?"

If I understand you correctly, you seem to be suggesting that the body and soul are one and the same or that it is not possible to separate one from the other.

That means that somebody who has lost an arm or a leg or more has had his soul shortened or scattered about in different parts of the earth. My mind turns to all those war veterans and innocent children who have lost limbs in mine infected zones. And what about all those bomb victims and plane crash victims whose bodies are blown to smithereens? Their souls must be scattered about everywhere. How on earth could they ever be found and identified and put back together again?

When I think that mankind has been in existence for about 4 to 7 million years, goodness knows how many souls are still clinging to the dust of the remains of their bodies or perhaps become food for grass and weeds, ingurgitated by wild animals or dispersed in foreign lands in the claws of various migrating bird species or washed away in floods...!

I may have even eaten bits and pieces of somebody's soul myself in a side salad!

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Posted by Banjo Paterson, Thursday, 15 November 2012 9:46:01 PM
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Soul food?
Posted by Poirot, Thursday, 15 November 2012 10:05:00 PM
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