Steven: I think you may be underestimating the electoral impact of a single weather event that has almost inflicted more damage that ALL of the extreme weather events in the US in 2011 put together. For a week prior to the vote, the US media was inundated by Sandy news. The green lobby took full advantage and used it to crank up voter turnout in affected States. Quite a few of the pundits are saying that what was looking like a neck-and-neck race turned Obama's way when Sandy made landfall, and you certainly had prominent figures like Bloomberg throwing their weight on his side over the climate issue.

JulianC

It was never a neck-and-neck race. That was a bit of media spin by innumerate political pundits.

The betting markets like Betfair had Obama as the odds on favourite weeks in advance. In fact I made a bit of money by betting against Romney with some of my Republican (ex?) friends and then betting the other way on Betfair.

To put it another way, I sold Romney short to my (ex?) friends and bought him back cheaply on Betfair giving me a guaranteed profit of $46 whatever the outcome.

Also see my post: Tuesday, 6 November 2012 11:18:02 AM

on

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=14319&page=0

Here's a prediction.

The Republicans will get back the conservative portion of the Latino vote - the 44% that Bush had and that McCain and Romney lost - and win the White House in 2016.

If you look at the Republican blogosphere this morning you will see that most of the pundits realise they lost because they lost the Latinos.

So while the Left basks in the delusion of a "progressive surge" as one Left of centre magazine put it, the Republicans are already planning victory next time.

Squeers' rant is typical of the misanthropism which has come out from under the rock following the junk of AGW 'science'.

Squeers' view of humanity is often given a run at our ABC:

http://theclimatescepticsparty.blogspot.com.au/2012/04/our-abc-green-narrative.html

Squeers would fit right in at the ABC when he says:

"humanity is an increasingly destructive force"

AGW has revealed a pathology within humanity which while similtaneously claiming a moral superiority and personal exemption from the preceived defects in the rest adopts a 'the result justifies the means' approach to achieving its aims.

That those aims are inchoate and contradictory is only the tip of the hypocrisy of the alarmists and misanthropists who worship AGW; the real hypocrisy is that I don't believe the bulk of alarmists really care about 'nature' at all and when the lights do go out will be baying the loudest for the return of their 'creature comforts', whatever the cost to nature or anyone else.

Apart from anything else the corruption of institutions in Australia such as the ABC, CSIRO and the BOM, by the AGW meme will take years to rectify.

It's not misanthropism, cohenite; it's our political/economic system--to which human nature is enthrall--that I'm critical of. This is another common trope trotted out by you and your ilk to change the subject.
What I've said is perfectly true and has nothing to do with hating humanity. I don't see the way humanity is currently organised (farmed) as "essentially" human, merely a caricature.

Nice link, cohenite...in that the climateskepticsparty = Anthony Cox = cohenite.

A wise species would employ moderation in its technological endeavours and would cease polluting its nest to the degree in which it does.

Posters like Squeers can see the unfolding folly of a system sustained by environmental degradation. Our system delivers the creature comforts in abundance to the fortunate few. How many planets would it take to deliver it universally?

Homo sapiens, for all its intelligence, is inherently myopic when it comes to long term sustainability. The "corruption" line is the fallback argument of those who wish to maintain the "status" quo - and the myopia.

Yes Steven the republicans will win the White house, if it is still there. With his record of corruption, he may have sold it, for a peppercorn, to one of his mates.

Even if the White house is still there, It will be looking out at a much reduced US, with Obama's attitude to productive industry.

It will be interesting to watch how destructive he, & the EPA become, now they have another term secured.