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A gaping wound in democracy : Comments

By Julian Cribb, published 5/11/2012

American climate science is quite clear: Superstorm Sandy was not a freak occurrence but the forerunner of many such events, and worse.

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Evolution in action.
The human virus marches on...........
Posted by ateday, Monday, 5 November 2012 8:15:49 AM
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Don Aitkin,

We may be looking at the increased frequency of storms such as this -

http://www.princeton.edu/main/news/archive/S32/98/37G63/

"Storm of the century" may become storm of the decade."
Posted by Poirot, Monday, 5 November 2012 8:39:40 AM
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Don: the article wasn't about the frequency of hurricanes. It was about the failure of the world's biggest democracy to discuss its the amount of energy it releases that is enhancing all extreme weather events. It was about its failure to understand that its present policies will bring larger impacts, the more heat energy is released into the atmosphere.
Posted by JulianC, Monday, 5 November 2012 8:46:56 AM
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Julian,

You wrote this: 'American climate science is quite clear: Superstorm Sandy was not a freak occurrence, a "once in a generation event" as the US media has misleadingly labelled it. It is the forerunner of many such events...'

Yet the evidence is almost exactly the opposite: there has been a lull in hurricanes, and those in the past were worse. You jump to the assumption that Sandy was caused by AGW, but neither climate science nor the IPCC itself make this claim.

If you haven't yet done so, read Robert Pielke Jnr's piece in the Wall Street Journal, or even my own piece this morning.
Posted by Don Aitkin, Monday, 5 November 2012 9:02:00 AM
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<< It was about the failure of the world's biggest democracy to discuss its the amount of energy it releases that is enhancing all extreme weather events. It was about its failure to understand that its present policies will bring larger impacts, the more heat energy is released into the atmosphere>>

“ CO2 emissions in the US have dropped “a lot” (7.7% since 2006, and 1.9% last year alone). The International Energy Agency writes, “US emissions have now fallen by 430 Mt (7.7%) since 2006, the largest reduction of all countries or regions.”
http://cleantechnica.com/2012/07/20/whats-the-deal-with-the-us-leading-the-world-in-co2-emissions-cuts-will-it-continue/

No, it's more about how much the UN and its affiliates can extort from the US.
Posted by SPQR, Monday, 5 November 2012 9:04:19 AM
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This article is despicable, US bashing, AGW scare-mongering junk.

As I have said before if AGW were happening hurricanes and extreme weather generally, would decrease in intensity; the reason for this is that energy gradients would decrease if warming were occuring; even the IPCC shows this with this A1B projection based on GISS's increased temperature scenario under a business as usual case:

http://blog.chron.com/sciguy/files/2012/11/cc4.jpg

The history of hurricane events in the Sandy area also shows that Sandy was not exceptional:

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/data/images/tracks/majors_1951_1960.jpg

Sandy was not even a category 1 hurricane yet here we have this author claiming Sandy is indicative of a worsening of the climate.

AGW is not a science it is obviously a belief system and the predictions and pronouncements which flow from AGW should be given the same respect as the rantings of those deluded specimens who stand on street corners bellowing about the end of the world.
Posted by cohenite, Monday, 5 November 2012 9:09:23 AM
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