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Maybe I do - a review : Comments

By Bill Muehlenberg, published 22/10/2012

The tragedy of the retreat from marriage is the personal and emotional trauma which research increasingly indicates affects many children.

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Kenny wrote:
"and only the version of the family unit that the Christian church has been pushing for the last couple of hundred years"

The fact that Jesus 'pushed' that "family unit" around 2000 years ago (Mt 19/ Mk 10) based upon even an even older paradigm gives lie to your assertion. Honestly, why bother with your two cents worth if it is not even worth one cent? And it is not just about the existence of different units, but upon the historical success of each of those. Are you really trying to claim that any other model works *better* - or even just as good - than one man/one woman and their children for generation after generation? Serious?

What mindless drivel you spout, Kenny. First of all, it makes an assertion that is not even true, second, it equates mere existence of a paradigm with its legitimacy. Yours is an argument about a micron deep. Pathetic counterarguments like yours just affirm that Bill has your measure on the issue by a country mile, because what you write isn't even reason, it's irrational noise.
Posted by Stephan, Monday, 22 October 2012 1:18:22 PM
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If humankind is going to even survive, let alone prosper in the years and decades yet to come, then it has to be informed by a comprehensive Real Intelligence re every aspect of human endeavor.

That having being said the "world"-view promoted by Bill on his blog and his writings (rantings) altogether provides absolutely nothing re the necessary concepts, tools and actions re how to do that.
Indeed the "world"-view that he promotes on his blog is entirely ignorant, culturally illiterate and essentially bigoted re/towards any other possibility other than his own narrow-minded unexamined self-righteousness.
Posted by Daffy Duck, Monday, 22 October 2012 1:38:27 PM
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Alright Stephan, if Jesus was so clever then what did he have to say about the chicken and the egg dilemma? Because essentially that's the kind of argument we're dealing with here.

Marriage doesn't lead to happiness any more than homosexuality leads to bestiality. It's merely an effect of a particular type of society where a lack of suitable alternative options exist.
Posted by Sam Jandwich, Monday, 22 October 2012 1:52:08 PM
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Religous extremists believe in the Adam and Eve concept, therefore they must support incest.
Posted by Kipp, Monday, 22 October 2012 2:08:49 PM
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Does the author truly believe that God is a government employee?

- Just pay a fee, receive a slip of paper with the word "Married", thence all blessings flow?

(and then pay a second fee, receive another slip of paper with the word "Divorced" thence the blessings-tap will be turned off)

Marriage is made in heaven, not on paper, which makes it practically impossible to tell who is married and who is not, thereby practically impossible to scientifically research the advantages and disadvantages of marriage.

On a different issue, the author, playing the sorcerer's apprentice, should be condemned for his obsession with bringing more children into this already way overcrowded planet. The world nowadays being so divorced from nature makes it a disservice to bring a child into, both for the world and for the child.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Monday, 22 October 2012 2:11:32 PM
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Bill Muehlenberg is no armchair expert. He actually knows his stuff, even if he is a Christian.
Posted by RDM7174, Monday, 22 October 2012 2:55:54 PM
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