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Not marching for baby fish : Comments

By Dan Flynn, published 15/10/2012

Tragically unborn babies in Victoria are not afforded the same protection as our undersized fish.

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I am pretty speechless right now, babies born alive! How heartbreaking for all concerned. I went to a meeting last night. Operation Outcry was there, they offer a ministry helping to heal those affected by abortion by way of workshops etc, they also have little babyshoes you can name and write a little message to your lost little one, I did this for someone I know who had an abortion recently, I named her Esther. It was good to see someone doing something practical for women affected.
Posted by up the ante, Monday, 15 October 2012 9:40:22 AM
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Great article. Well done for all those who attended march.
Posted by Mountain Man, Monday, 15 October 2012 9:49:14 AM
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Damn shame that the anti-choice movement don't care as much once these kids are born.
Posted by Carz, Monday, 15 October 2012 10:11:49 AM
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In this day and age of modern medicine & life saving techniques, govt funding for people with disabilities, care net works and support agencies that we would pass a law to terminate a babies life right up until birth.

The pro-choice lobby say it is a womans right to choose and in a democratic society that's a fair comment, all things being equal. But what about those women or girls who are pressured into having an abortion because their partner doesn't want it or their parents have put pressure on them to get rid of the baby.
This happens in our community, what happened to those mothers right to choose to have the baby?
If we can stick up for our fish, how much more so we should stick up for unborn human life and for the mums to be facing this situation?
Posted by MR RG, Monday, 15 October 2012 10:18:35 AM
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Unborn babies? The emotive title shows bias. There is no such thing. Human embryos are not babies. They will become babies if and when they are born. I will become a corpse when I die. So will we all. All living people can be referred to as undead people. It is inevitable that we will die, but it is not inevitable that a human embryo will become a baby. Many pregnancies do not come to term because of spontaneous abortions for various reasons.

I am an undead person, but there is no good reason to use the term. A human embryo is not an unborn baby.

A pregnant woman can make a decision that she would rather not continue the pregnancy. That is her right. Articles such as this seek to deny her that right.

The article ends. "The March was a peaceful witness to life and a visual demonstration that Victoria's abortion laws are "out of step with community sentiment", that surely values the life of a child over a fish."

In an abortion it is not the life of a child that is concerned. A human embryo is not a child. However, the life of a pregnant woman is concerned. That should be considered.

It is not the life of a child versus the life of a fish. It is the life of a woman as opposed to a continuation of a pregnancy. That is the issue stripped of emotive terms.

My cousin committed suicide during WW2 because she was pregnant, and her man had been killed in action. She did not have access to a medically safe abortion and saw no alternative to suicide. That suicide eliminated both her and the embryo in her. It would have been better had she had access to abortion and lived on possibly to have a baby under other circumstances in the future.
Posted by david f, Monday, 15 October 2012 10:40:06 AM
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The fact that there are doctors and nurses who will abort a baby and watch as it struggles unsuccessfully to live, is frightening as well as abhorrent. It is wrong to condone such injustice.
Please keep marching.
Posted by Pat G, Monday, 15 October 2012 11:37:21 AM
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