Ah, a tasty young Liberal! MMmmm. Chikkken Wings!

Yumm!

Losers!

The human race Has its deepest roots in Geology and thus GEOTHERMAL free energy. Thorium like FrackGass is a thermodynamic absurdity based on American imperialist Quantitative Diseasing rather than science. The second Law of Thermodynamics is EXPLICIT about the IMPOSSIBILITY of collecting diffuse energy over vast areas and volumes to create baseload outputs. These are BASIX Fundamentals.

A few young liberals getting shoved off their cosy perches and squawking all the way to the ground won't PRIVATISE THAT.

Goodnight Irene!

Robert LePage
People like you drawing attention to what's really happening in the world! Assuming that all development is bad and all wild stories you read from activists about new developments is not the same is knowing what is really going on now is it?

"The human race Has its deepest roots in Geology and thus GEOTHERMAL free energy. Thorium like FrackGass is a thermodynamic absurdity based on American imperialist Quantitative Diseasing rather than science. The second Law of Thermodynamics is EXPLICIT about the IMPOSSIBILITY of collecting diffuse energy over vast areas and volumes to create baseload outputs. These are BASIX Fundamentals."

As kooks go you seem a natural leader; what does having our "deepest roots in Geology" mean? Were we once rocks? I know some people with rocks in their heads; does that help?

2nd law of TD contradicted by Thorium? Do you mean a Thorium reactor is a perpetual motion machine [PMM]? Such reactors were working in the 60's and 70's but were discontinued because they don't produce fuel for nuclear bombs. Surely if they were PMM wouldn't they still be going?

However, I agree with this:

"the IMPOSSIBILITY of collecting diffuse energy over vast areas and volumes to create baseload outputs.

It sums up why wind and solar will never work

Jack from Bicton

There is absolutely no threat to WA’s water supplies from developing its shale gas. The geology of shale gas is quite different to the coal seam gas that has been controversial in the eastern states – shale gas it is far deeper and is found at very different depths to water.

The Department of Mines and Petroleum’s website has a very good primer on WA’s unconventional gas. It includes this:

“Western Australia’s shale and tight gas resources are located at significantly greater depths than in Eastern Australia, and have significant vertical separation from non-saline shallow water aquifers”

http://www.dmp.wa.gov.au/12872.aspx

Even if there was a risk of contamination, the bulk of WA's gas is in places like the Canning Basin, which is so remote that its groundwater is never likely to be a usable resource.

Just another example of the relentless negativity of the greens. Any new industrial endeavor is met with wild exaggerations and misrepresentations.

Poirot's link to the photographs of the open cast mine looks terrible, but this again is a misrepresentation as no open cast mine looks pretty while mining is underway. A photo once the shale has been extracted, the top soil replaced and the rehabilitation completed would be more appropriate.

"(the largest single industrial polluter on the planet)" For this month anyway. previously it was Chernobyl and then Fukushima etc.

The thing that concerns me about the anti-mining, anti-energy, anti-population and anti-capitalism lobby is their over reliance on media publications for their information. I have at times been guilty of this too but have since since learnt my lesson - there is considerable distance between a media story and a fact.

So far on OLO we have had fracking causing earthquakes, the Australian economy dying because immigrants are eating us out of house and home, we're running out of oil and gas (blatantly false), we're running out of minerals therefore won't be able to make steel (bizarre), sea levels are rising and will swamp coastal Australia, the artesian basin is falling, high density living causes suicides, not to mention a plethora of evil fates will befall us when the discussion turns to dams, desalination plants, wind farms, etc. But they're spot on re fish stocks.

Why the predilection for ridiculous hyperbole? Because they can - but one wonders whether or not we need to have a good hard look at how our schools and universities are churning out graduates if this is the shape of debate to come.