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Shale gas revolution shaking up the world : Comments

By Julie Bishop, published 4/10/2012

A United States that is self-sufficient in energy production has the potential to affect the globe’s geo-strategic balance, particularly with regard to the Middle East and Europe.

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Curmudgeon,

"...small piece of Canadian wasteland..."

Wow - what a premise to begin with!

Leave it with you....
Posted by Poirot, Thursday, 4 October 2012 11:09:05 AM
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A bunch of unsustainable American Quantitative Deceiveasing nonsense from the deputy of a party that wants to PRIVATISE every government responsibility except tax collection, police, armed forces and government salary review.

LIBERALS are disreputable and LAZY. They lack the imagination to convert this nation to permanent sustainability via INEXHAUSTABLE GEOTHERMAL energy.

Their cargo-cult, Howardesque, New Guinea slave master principles, under the yoke of FreeMarket Imperialism to cling on to diminishing prosperity, grates on the nerves of very Australian with a heart and a mind.

If we are the dumb natives they insist on treating us like, Let us all rise up and boil young liberals and OLD in a giant vat with carrots, greens and spuds and spices and eat them for a picnic.

Goodnight Irene er Julie.
Posted by KAEP, Thursday, 4 October 2012 11:14:12 AM
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Curmudgeon: Good idea for who?
The rapacious right?
The lost left?
Criminal corporations?
If people like me did not draw attention to what is really going on, the world would be destroyed even more quickly.
Posted by Robert LePage, Thursday, 4 October 2012 11:23:08 AM
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Shale not only contains Gas but oil as well, sometimes referred to as naphtha?
Extracting naphtha is as easy as injecting super heated steam in one hole and collecting ready to use diesel from another?
The USA has enough oil and gas reserves in its shale deposits to rival the entire known Middle East reserves?
It has been left with little other choice but to access and use the stuff!
For some years now oil and its continuing supply, has been used as a major economic weapon?
At one stage the USA was importing 40% of its needs and parting with over 70 billions plus per annum; and, for the most environmental harmful stuff, namely the sludge leftovers, from middle East fractional distillation refineries, which produces four times more carbon in total, than i.e, using Australian sweet light crude, which leaves the ground as a virtually ready to use diesel. That only requires a little chill filtering to remove sand particles, and a soluble wax, which if left, can clog the injectors on a frosty morning; and or, produce plumes of black smoke under load!
We have somewhere between 5-15 billion barrels of the stuff in the Townsville trough and loads more just a little further out?
Hard to damage something that is already dead or dying or doomed.
And we continue to import fossil fuels that in total, produce four times as much atmospheric carbon, than the very fuel, Australian, sulphur free, sweet light crude, we insist on locking away!
What is our goal? To save the remaining reef or extend the time we have to come up with viable endlessly sustainable alternatives? Well?
Stupidly importing a incredibly expensive, as around 80% of needs, economy harming, much dirtier alternative, which produces in total, four times more carbon, than what we have locked away; in a dead, dying or doomed reef, courtesy of some very dumb, very emotive people, ain't one of them.
Well? Is it?
Rhrosty.
Posted by Rhrosty, Thursday, 4 October 2012 12:09:03 PM
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"LIBERALS are disreputable and LAZY. They lack the imagination to convert this nation to permanent sustainability via INEXHAUSTABLE GEOTHERMAL energy."

Federally the coalition should take a feather out of Newman's cap and practice zero tolerance with the whining, parasitical left/greens of this nation.

Geothermal is a joke, unless you are living on a volcano with the attendant lifestyle dilemmas; ask flannery how his geothermal project is going; oh look, despite a $90 mill of my tax $ it's gone broke:

http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/black_power_beats_green/

World wide geothermal was touted by Obama and is going nowhere; it's a dud technology which actually liberates more CO2 from bedrock then a coal plant does through burning coal.

The libs need to look at Thorium, a real power source
Posted by cohenite, Thursday, 4 October 2012 12:45:09 PM
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Surprise, surprise,John Howard's recent address in Adelaide mentioned the booming US shale oil/gas industry in a similar vein to this M/s Bishop's letter. Suggesting that the US reliance upon imported Middle Eastern and Venesuelan oil would be replaced by this abundant cheap shale oil/gas, thus changing its industrial structure, enabling the US to compete more actively and competitively with the Asian/European giants.
As well as great reserves of iron ore Western Australia has greater reserves of shale oil/gas waiting to be developed, however at an environmental price, complete destruction of potable underground water, in WA a precious rare commodity.
It would seem to me that certain Liberal Party influential members are preparing the ground in this country for these same US and multinational companies to eventually come here to exploit this untapped resource to their advantage as as already happened in the Australian iron ore, natural gas,coal,industries.
Posted by Jack from Bicton, Thursday, 4 October 2012 1:18:10 PM
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