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Taking Islam seriously 101 : Comments

By Jonathan J. Ariel, published 18/9/2012

Some claim the film in question is intolerant of Islam. But intolerance is a function of our tenet of free speech.

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great article
thank you
Posted by SC, Tuesday, 18 September 2012 3:29:29 PM
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One of the defining qualities of our culture is that everything is open to challenge, God is … and yes, even Einstein does not go unchallenged.

Another, emerging feature of our culture is that we seem to produce gaggles –of doubtlessly well meaning people--who believe that it is simply not fair to apply our critical facilities to certain creeds –particularly those with a high proportion of non-English speaking adherents. And when confronted with a critique of one such creed will come out with well chewed summations, like:

“ There is good and bad in all”

And, delight in singing “every creed is beautiful in its own way”

Well, sorry, but it aint so –some creeds are down right UGLY.

As a culture we appear to be increasingly afflicted with a variant of the virus that that we experienced in financial terms during the GFC. At the time of the GFC some banks –for all their badness-- were deemed just “too big to fail”.The current variant is that some creeds for all their badness -- are too big to criticize .

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Posted by SPQR, Tuesday, 18 September 2012 5:11:58 PM
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Funnily enough, the fairness aficionados seem to know without a shadow of a doubt that all Nazi’s are evil, all racists are evil, all pedophilic priests are evil and all corporations involves in coal or oil extraction are evil, and would scratch any representatives of the aforementioned to death if given half the opportunity.

But even tangential criticism of such previously alluded to creeds, along the lines of :
<<Daily, Arab school children both in the Muslim world and even in the United Kingdom are taught that Jews are the descendents of monkeys and pigs. And how Adolf Hitler was a great man.>>

Are met with what amounts to flat denials –without any attempt to test the claim –or chargers that some other creed does it too, “so there!” –again without any attempt to check it.

Now I don’t mind –well I do, but I can swallow it – if we have determined ala the cold war US v Russia that we have decided not to attack each other to avoid MAD(ness). But please let’s not hide behind the pretence that it’s all about FAIRNESS & HONESTY.

And one more thing: why are some of us now shocked with scenes like this: http://tinyurl.com/987wsar

When we have known all along about happenings like: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ltsv40vCP7g

And like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjIBrs4_b98

Some creeds are down right UGLY --and some of us, slow on the uptake.
Posted by SPQR, Tuesday, 18 September 2012 5:15:12 PM
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I stopped at the title, I must admit

Taking Islam seriously 101

How ? I can't take astrology seriously, or the tooth fairy seriously, how can I take Islam, Christianity, Judaism the Easter Bunny etal seriously ?
Posted by Valley Guy, Tuesday, 18 September 2012 11:49:38 PM
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