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How an international humanitarian disaster could be fertile ground for al-Qaeda : Comments

By Ronan Lee, published 3/9/2012

Just 28,000 out of 400,000 are officially recognised as refugees, making survival for the remaining 372,000 tenuous.

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Whilst a further refugee tragedy is to be deplored,the question does arise as to why the international community and especially the most generous donors such as Australia and the US, are continuously expected to be leaders in providing aid.These unfortunates are Moslems and the one noticeable trait in such cases,is that the wealthy Moslem countries never seem to make the effort to organize or provide meaningful amounts of aid,a good example is the current situation regarding refugees from Syria,where both Turkey and Jordan want aid.If the Moslems are not prepared to help each other,then its a bit much to expect others to come to the rescue.
Posted by mik, Monday, 3 September 2012 10:54:30 AM
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Who says Islamic radicals shouldn't be allowed to operate in Muslim communities and who says Wahabis or Salafists are inherently unqualified to protect, educate and lead other Muslims? Al Qaeda are to Islam what Ronan Lee is to Liberalism, just a bit better educated and committed to their cause than the mainstream, the Taliban leaders for example are educated, literate and pious, why shouldn't they run Afghanistan instead of a corrupt NATO puppet?
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Monday, 3 September 2012 3:49:15 PM
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Al-Qaeda was created by the the US Govt and Israel for their project for a new Amenrican Century.http://www.ae911truth.org/ There are now over 1700 architects and engineers who say that not only the towers were brought down by controlled demolition but also WTC 7 a very large building which no plane impacted.

The science is exact and revealing because all these buildings came down at near free fall speeds,which is impossble unless there was a controlled demolition scenario.

Also see http://patriotsquestion911.com/ Some very high profile,professors,Doctors,ex-CIA,scientists and politicians including Vladmir Putin ask serious questions about the offical story.
Posted by Arjay, Monday, 3 September 2012 6:32:52 PM
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Good grief, Mik!

Where do you get your information? The Australian? The Daily Telegraph? Alan Jones?

Re: "... Australia and the US, are continuously expected to be leaders in providing aid."

This is untrue, Mik. Australia ranks 46th on the global ladder of nations hosting refugees and asylum seekers. And 69th per capita.

Australia is well towards the bottom of the OECD table of overseas aid donors also.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-06-21/australia-ranks-46th-in-refugee-intake-table/2766300

Re: "If the Moslems are not prepared to help each other, then its a bit much to expect others to come to the rescue."

Mik, seven of the top ten refugee-receiving nations are Muslim countries.

http://www.unhcr.org/pages/49c3646c4d6.html

Why do you choose to remain misinformed on these matters? And then share your profound lack of knowledge?
Posted by Alan Austin, Monday, 3 September 2012 9:56:04 PM
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Why do you choose to remain misinformed on these matters? And then share your profound lack of knowledge?
Alan Austin,
Aren't you doing exactly the same ? You choose to let yourself be hoodwinked by rose-coloured reports & then share your indoctrination ?
Posted by individual, Monday, 3 September 2012 10:52:19 PM
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individual,

Where do think all the Iraqi refugees fled when Georgie Dubya unleashed his shock and awe?
Posted by Poirot, Monday, 3 September 2012 11:53:25 PM
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Categories, Individual, old son. Categories.

Being informed about what is actually happening in the world is a matter of factual knowledge, awareness of reality, valuing veracity, commitment to truth.

Onpassing information is a matter of faithful reportage. Onpassing misinformation is deception.

These functions are quite different from having an outlook, holding an opinion, maintaining a bias or wearing spectacles of whatever tint. Completely different categories.

We all can, do and should have an opinion. But we are not entitled to fabricate, misrepresent and lie, are we?

Mik’s assertions, above, were simply untrue. Yes, they are repeated continually by the paid liars in the Murdoch media. But they are still false. And hence should be challenged by those who want to see an honest, open, discussion of vital issues.

No?
Posted by Alan Austin, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 1:01:17 AM
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Facts eh ?
Alan Austin,
What about the fact then that we don't hear of former refugees joining up with the allied forces & go back to their home countries & help restore order. No, they're quite happy to let others take all the risks & put up effort & resources.
Why not go & help your people by going back there & help your people ? I have a strong feeling I know why. Start thinking of what the real situation is.
Posted by individual, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 6:39:57 AM
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Al-Qaeda in Burma is a Burmese problem.

Al-Qaeda in Bangladesh is a Bangladeshi problem.

On no account should Australia make AQ in any of these countries an Australian problem.
Posted by stevenlmeyer, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 10:34:07 AM
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Good grief, Alan Austin

I see you are still confusing “hosting” with “resettling”.

Why do you choose to remain misinformed on these matters? And then share your profound lack of knowledge?
Posted by SPQR, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 2:25:11 PM
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<<Where do think all the Iraqi refugees fled when Georgie Dubya unleashed his shock and awe?>>

There, there Poirot --this will help you: http://www.amazon.com/The-George-Bush-Voodoo-Kit/dp/0762431172
Posted by SPQR, Wednesday, 5 September 2012 6:35:27 AM
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Shiver me timbers,stone the crows, Alan Austin ,your attempt to distort the truth just shows that your mind has atrophied.
You give references about refugee intakes,not about actual aid given PER CAPITA,which is the relevant factor.Use some good old commonsense,assuming its available.Australia per capita is a high provider of aid, also of refugee intakes and is a compassionate country in these matters,but it shouldn't get involved in every case where others should take up the primary burden.Why are we providing aid to Indonesia?
The original example given,which is typical of so many;Turkey and Jordan have been forced to accept Syrian refugees in their 100,s of thousands,but this has nothing to do with their intention of providing aid on an ongoing basis.It should also have nothing to do with Western aid,as this mess certainly isn't the fault of the West
Even so they have not been ashamed to ask the international community through the UN to provide aid,even though Turkey is quite a wealthy country.
Is there any reason why the very wealthy Gulf countries can't provide this aid,instead of continuously bludging off the Western countries of different religions,who in their spare time,they attempt to undermine.
They would rather sit on the sidelines and ask the West to sort out their problems when it suits them.Wake up Alan to harsh realities.
The Rohingya situation should be sorted by some compassionate Moslem country,if such exists.
Posted by mik, Wednesday, 5 September 2012 2:25:11 PM
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SPQR,

Have you a link to an SPQR voodoo kit?
Posted by Poirot, Wednesday, 5 September 2012 2:34:46 PM
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Alan Austin

"Mik’s assertions, above, were simply untrue. Yes, they are repeated continually by the paid liars in the Murdoch media. But they are still false. And hence should be challenged by those who want to see an honest, open, discussion of vital issues"

Are you saying that I'm a paid liar from the Murdoch Media-be careful!
Posted by mik, Wednesday, 5 September 2012 2:39:07 PM
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Regarding Ausaid,which illustrates its generosity:

Australian aid: making a real difference(2nd last paragraph)

http://www.ausaid.gov.au/Publications/Pages/9630_9818_7379_5484_6453.aspx

Countries where aid is provided

http://www.ausaid.gov.au/makediff/Pages/default.aspx
Posted by mik, Wednesday, 5 September 2012 3:11:49 PM
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