Factual error: Chris Hani was assassinated by rogue rightwing extremists. His was not an example of 'state sanctioned violence'. His murder happened at a very inopportune moment for the regime at the time.

Sounds like par for the course to me.

Just in passing Bruce, would you like to try to name a single country which has not descended into huge corruption, when ever the local population has taken over government from a colonial power or a government descended from a colonial power.

It doesn't matter where you look, Africa, Asia, the Pacific or the middle east, the bottom end of the population are always much worse off when governed by their own elites.

Yes, same script, different actors. I wonder if there's a SA version of Robert Mugabe waiting for the right moment to save the country from democracy.

Hasbeen writes

>>It doesn't matter where you look, Africa, Asia, the Pacific or the middle east, the bottom end of the population are always much worse off when governed by their own elites.>>

Freed from Japanese rule South Korea has become a modern, affluent nation.

Indonesia after Dutch rule is making progress as is Sri Lanka after British rule. I would say that in both cases the majority of the population are much better off than they were under colonial rule.

For all its problems Malaysians are definitely better off than they were under British rule.

India is a "work in progress." I think most people are better off but the price is high for many?

The one sub-Saharan African country that has leaped ahead is Botswana. In my view it's first president, Seretse Khama, is a better model for Africa than that much bally-hooed friend of Gadaffai, Nelson Mandela.

Well its just a case of " I told you so". Its been made clear to
whites that it is now a black man's continent, so those whites remaining,
do so at their peril. Those with qualifications have a choice, those
without, generally don't. The smarts so all this coming, so left
years ago.

Yabby wrote:

>>Those with qualifications have a choice, >>

And increasingly those with suitable qualifications are exercising that choice irregardless of skin colour.

What we are seeing in South Africa is not "white flight" but "skills flight."