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Palestine - Jews and Arabs, the Mandate and the law : Comments

By David Singer, published 1/8/2012

The Mandates for Syria and Lebanon and Mesopotamia have been deemed by Arab politicians to be good, but not that for Palestine.

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Busy right now so I will just post a letter signed by 40 American Jewish leaders to the Israeli PM and will respond later;

The Honorable Benjamin Netanyahu Prime Minister of the State of Israel

Dear Mr. Prime Minister:

As strong advocates for Israel’s security and well-being as a Jewish and democratic state, we are deeply concerned about the recent findings of the government commission led by Supreme Court Jurist (Ret.) Edmund Levy. We fear that if approved, this report will place the two-state solution, and the prestige of Israel as a democratic member of the international community, in peril.

As you boldly stated in your address to the United States Congress last May, “I recognize that in a genuine peace, we’ll be required to give up parts of the ancestral Jewish homeland.” As you said clearly, doing so is not easy. While the Jewish people indeed share a biblical connection to the lands of Judea and Samaria, you told Congress, “there is another truth: The Palestinians share this small land with us. We seek a peace in which they’ll be neither Israel’s subjects nor its citizens. They should enjoy a national life of dignity as a free, viable and independent people living in their own state.”

Securing Israel’s future as a Jewish and democratic state requires diplomatic and political leadership, not legal maneuverings. We recognize and regret that the Palestinian Authority has abdicated leadership by not returning to the negotiating table. Nonetheless, our great fear is that the Levy Report will not strengthen Israel's position in this conflict, but rather add fuel to those who seek to delegitimize Israel’s right to exist. At this moment, it is more critical than ever that Israel strengthen its claim in the international community that it is committed to a two-state vision, which is, in turn, central to Israel’s future as a Jewish and democratic state.

We are confident that with your deep understanding of the gravity of this situation, and your unprecedented political strength, you will ensure that adoption of this report does not take place.

Sincerely,

(See link for names)

http://www.israelpolicyforum.org/sites/ipforum/files/LETTER%20TO%20THE%20PRIME%20MINISTER_1_0.pdf
Posted by csteele, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 10:46:43 AM
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The sickening semantic games continue ad nauseum while:
- the Palestinians are being thrown out of their homes into the street,
- Palestinian homes are being demolished,
- Palestinians are being murdered by missiles,
- the Jews write reports that are filled with wishful thinking and religious bigotry,
- and the U.S. continues to pretend to be an honest brokers when it is clearly anti-Palestinian and profoundly hypocritical.

Israel has no intention of allowing a two-state solution and never has. It has now annexed the West Bank completely (Levy) and will eventually drive the Gazans into Egypt. Then it will start implementing its Greater Israel plan with American help.

How much longer is the world going to allow this rogue nation to make a mockery of International Law, International Conventions, the U.N., and decency, morality and fair play?
Posted by David G, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 11:05:19 AM
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Peter Singer has cited “law” as establishing the right of the worldwide Jewish ethnic group to a state all of its own smack in the middle of someone else’s country (and expanding by the day). The “law” to which he refers has two sources – a declaration by most but not all victors of World War I (not an Arab among the lot of them) grouped as the League of Nations, and a recent decision by a court embedded in the state of Israel. Of course Arabs won’t recognise “laws” imposed on them by foreigners. No ethnic group – none − has the right to designate part of someone’s territory as its homeland. Not even if they dress it up in fancy language and call it “law”. Not even if it is claimed − blasphemously − that God promised it to them. Would ethnic Celts have the right to kick the inhabitants out of some country and claim it as “Celtia”? Of course not. Nobody has the right to a state for their own ethnic group or deserves any sympathy if they establishe one and it suffers ongoing existential challenge from those it has displaced or from others who wouldn't accept it being done to them.
Posted by EmperorJulian, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 3:33:32 PM
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What is happening to the Palistinians today is a reflection of what will happen to most of us on this planet if the ruling elites of Wall St have their way.

They want their New World Order under the UN who will control everyone and everything.The UN Agenda 21 which we have agreed to, want the individual to be totally subjugated under the lie of saving the planet from human consumption and environmental destruction.

The real parasites are at the top of the monetary counterfeiting scams,who take everything and produce nothing.This is what Singer and his ilk are all about.Theft by deception.
Posted by Arjay, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 7:42:29 PM
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I think posters need to remember the six mistakes we make in thinking

(Not original but I forget where I found it)

(1) We prefer stories to facts.

(2) We seek to confirm, not to question, our ideas.

(3) We rarely appreciate the role of chance and coincidence in shaping events.

(4) We sometimes misperceive the world around us.

(5) We tend to oversimplify our thinking.

(6) Our memories are often inaccurate.

Numbers 1, 2 and 5 are especially relevant when it comes to Israel
Posted by stevenlmeyer, Thursday, 2 August 2012 1:26:53 PM
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Dear stevenlmeyer,

I would mostly agree.

For the best part of my life I had been a champion of Israel. I was certainly captured by the romance of its stories and always put the best light on its actions.

I have often thought about the reasons for it taking so long for me to face facts. There was the obvious exposure to in my youth 'cultural Christianity' and its myths about the holy land, and more direct influences such as learning of the tragedy of the extermination camps.

I still have a book given to me by my parents before my teenage years literally called Jewish Fairytales in which there are vivid stories about pogroms and Jewish girls being nailed into barrels studded with nails which were then rolled through the streets of some European town. I suppose it was my parents way of making sure the message of the horrors of anti-Semitism were instilled.

The Six Day War with its accompanying media occurring during my formative years undoubtedly had an impact, as it did with many other Aussie kids my age, and through our early teenage years heroic fiction like Mitchener's 'The Source' and Smith's 'Eagle in the Sky' all helped to cement our perceptions.

By my early twenties critical thinking and slightly more mature outlook had served to puncture many of the myths about and the motives of humans and societies yet my blind spot for Israel and its actions remained.

Cont...
Posted by csteele, Thursday, 2 August 2012 5:23:36 PM
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