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Risky business: war on the Greens will hurt Labor : Comments

By Robert Simms, published 16/7/2012

The political antidote Labor proposes to the Greens is in effect a shift to the right in the form of a Labor/Liberal pact to 'lock-out' the Greens.

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Ah, Robert. What a pity. You’ve attracted the loony fringe instead of rationality. It is interesting, alarming and predictable to read these sorts of responses every time the Greens are mentioned. That is the reason human civilization is collapsing along with the environment in which we evolved, due to overpopulation and the consequent toxic pollution. Just as most people want to believe in a supernatural protector in the sky, they also want to believe humans are on the right track and all is for the best in the best of all possible worlds. Thinking, concerned people like the Greens who see the looming catastrophes and have policies that could alleviate matters, are seen as bearers of bad news - and you know what happens to them. They’re being shot down because to do otherwise would be to accept that we’ve stuffed up big time; we’re about to become the shortest living dominant species this planet has seen by millions of years, and our extinction will not cause the universe to blink. But to admit it would be un manly and un-Australian, wouldn’t it?
Posted by ybgirp, Monday, 16 July 2012 4:32:55 PM
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Haven't you woken up yet daffy, that is exactly what the greens want to reintroduce, except they want to be the controlling power?

They obviously have a problem as the UN is up to the same trick, using much the same confidence trick to attempt it.

Wouldn't it be lovely to watch a clash between the two, provided of course, they both lost.
Posted by Hasbeen, Monday, 16 July 2012 4:40:02 PM
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'a govt that thus far has protected Australia from the GFC'

The only thing that has protected Australia from the GFC has been the sustained and virulent growth of China's economy over the last 15 years. Now, China's economy is slowing to dangerous levels and the strain on Australia is definitely starting to show. Mass layoffs in both private and public sectors, plummeting real estate values hemorrhaging people's net wealth, state economies failing their credit ratings and some heading for bankruptcy (pity about all that government revenue we no longer earn due to our drunken privatisation bingeing), skyrocketing costs of living as the long-term effects of Howard's user-pays utopia kick in, and much more to come.

The people blame the government, and the government blames the Greens, and the Coalition is keeping quiet about the fact that it's THEIR neo-liberal agenda that created the GFC mess in the first place. Yet the Greens have remained true to their ideals and policies throughout these trying times and this is reflected in their small but strong and steadily growing support base.
Posted by Killarney, Monday, 16 July 2012 5:07:48 PM
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Hasbeen - as if the greens have any real poltical power here in the land of Oz.
Meanwhile, although he writes largely within the context of USA politics and "culture" (or whats left of it), one of my very favorite progressive voices/advocates is Henry Giroux at http://www.henrygiroux.com

Plus Chris Hedges and the mulivarious people who are featured on the newsletters provided by Alternet, Truthdig, Truthout, Common Dreams, Democracy Now, and the Reader Support News service.
I dont see any evidence that the greens are going to take over the world or that green philosophy etc has any real influence at all in the world-wide scale of things.
Indeed anything that could be remotely associated with green, or any kind of social justice too, in the USA is being very deliberately and systematically dismantled with the right-wing stink-tanks providing the ideological justifications for such, the zombiefied robotic "human beings" to accomplish such, and bottomless barrels of gold to fund/finance their dismantling projects
Posted by Daffy Duck, Monday, 16 July 2012 5:35:57 PM
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Daffy, what do you think the IPCC is, a conservative think tank?

Then how about Obama & the EPA closing down productive enterprise for pie in the sky green garbage. Hell he even praises how Spain advanced their economy with green power. One really has to doubt that these people's sanity.

I suppose you think our little fool Julia woke up one morning & decided a carbon tax was a good idea. If she did, it was because Bob was under her bed whispering "carbon tax" all night, & she fell for his subliminal message. Think it was more like a shout, "want the lodge baby, give us a carbon tax. & it's yours".
Posted by Hasbeen, Monday, 16 July 2012 6:41:13 PM
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Hasbeen, did you also complain when John Howard brought in the GST; thought not!!
Posted by Kipp, Monday, 16 July 2012 7:35:54 PM
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