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Where are you from? : Comments

By Ramesh Fernandez, published 29/6/2012

Do you realise that the question 'Where do you come from?' immediately sets in place a structure that excludes people, rejecting them with a form of passive racism?

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Australians, including Clive James, who lives in the UK, don't view Aboriginals at all. The vast majority of us live in big urban cities. The indigenous people we see with any regularity are the professional footballers who appear on our TV or from a distance in a stadium. Not sure why anyone considers a simple statement of fact as being odd.

Nevertheless, there is no denying that the general welfare of Aboriginals in Australia is and has been unacceptable. Attempts to improve this state of affairs by bludgeoning Australians with racism and white guilt have failed to produce measurable improvements in their quality of life.

The possibilities of improvement in the present are supplanted by this pseudo-christian self flagellation; trapping us to a past, we can do nothing about; making ourselves feel good because we hold the most indigenously sensitive opinion; lauding our superiority with tears against the callous heathen. What indescribable and near divine ecstatic experiences we can manufacture!
Posted by YEBIGA, Saturday, 30 June 2012 12:22:44 PM
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Squeers, I feel sorry for you, I really do.

It must be really horrible to hate ones self, & ones fellow countrymen as much as you do. Hate is a corrosive influence, damaging all it touches.

Our aboriginals were doing fine, until Whitlam, & the bleeding heart brigade gave them so much it took their independence & pride from them. The hand out mentality destroyed a whole host of successful, independent communities, where initial help from missions, or station owners had established working communities. Sit down money destroyed all this, & much else along with it.

I won't bother saying more, trying to talk to people like you is like trying to pee into the wind. I do hope you find something to like however.
Posted by Hasbeen, Saturday, 30 June 2012 12:33:51 PM
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We are indeed a land of immigrants. The very first of the first Australians, Tasmanian Aboriginals, arrived here by sea some 40-60,000 years ago? They lived in apparent peace as fisher folk, enjoying much of the native bush tucker.
Oral history tells us that around 14-12,000 years ago, during a minor ice age, others came! And with hunting dogs and fire sticks, took what they wanted?
Killed the men and took and brutalised Tasmanian, [first Australian,] women folk and children?
Exploited their knowledge of bush tucker and medicinal plants etc.
And in their relentless murderous pursuit, drove the remaining "very first Australians" all the way to Tasmania.
There are very few indigenous Tasmanians left!
White settlement and the wars that followed, saw their numbers decimated to just a few dozen?
And those that can claim a Tasmanian heritage today, are so-called mixed blood, be they coal black brown eyes, or milky white blue eyed blondes!
This being so, I believe we will reach a time and place, where we will become a meld of all those races we supposedly sprang from, and it will no longer be important where our ancestors came from?
We simply cannot go back and change the past or punish the land grabbing transgressors, for their various crimes!
It's time we realized that and simply stopped the blame game or seeking to visit the crimes of the past, on entirely innocent descendants.
We are never ever assisted by hostile urban activists, seeking to wedge native born, indigenous or New Australians against each other, for patent political purposes?
In the final analysis, we are just human beings, who gain something valuable from all our ancestral roots!
Rhrosty.
Posted by Rhrosty, Saturday, 30 June 2012 1:20:21 PM
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With all due respect, Squeers, I don't think you addressed my issues at all.
The accepted definition of the word 'immigrant' is someone who comes to a country after having been born in a different country.
I was born in this country, ergo I am not an immigrant.
Whether or not my parents, grandparents or great grandparents were immigrants is immaterial.
Since I didn't (to the best of my recollection) choose to be born an Australian, or earn the right to be born white, any more than anyone I know chose or earned the right to be black, I see no reason why I should feel pride or shame, nor do I see any reason why ownership or a sense of belonging should be in any way generational.
It's all just happenstance.
Really, isn't worrying about your genetic inheritance the very essence of racism? Of discrimination?
If you want to prove you're not a racist, how about starting with:
“Humans” have lived on this continent for at least 40,000, possibly as much as 120,000 years (instead of “Aborigines”).
Then, just a couple of hundred years ago, another group of Humans came to this land, and brought their concept of Law with them.
Sadly, the new Humans only applied their laws to each other, and not to the Humans who were already here.
In fact, most of the new Humans, including those in charge, denied the first Humans were Human at all, and therefore had no Human rights.
Which was, some might suggest, a bit inhuman.
In truth and sadly, it was very Human, as is evidenced by the way we are still treating Humans who try to get here today.
Having one set of rules for some people, and different rules for other people has never been a successful strategy for social harmony.
Posted by Grim, Saturday, 30 June 2012 3:48:08 PM
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Squeers, that's a lot of text but no rebuttal beyond, "What I say goes just because", you can't use the view of other anti Racists as "evidence" of the truthfulness of your beliefs, it's like asking a Priest for to help you in an argument over the existence of god.
So you've stated categorically that merely being White is "passive racism", good to know where you stand, you say you are anti Racist, what you are is Anti White, anti Racism is a code word for anti White.
All I can say is that it must be lonely out on that shaking limb because more or less everyone else is on that two way street of congeniality and mutual respect and tolerance of other people's differences, including White Australians
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Saturday, 30 June 2012 4:02:51 PM
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Surely we can have a test to ensure that immigrants that come here don't have a chip on their shoulder like the author of this article. We have enough people with victim mentalities who feed from the Government trough and still complain about every thing they imagine in their mind. Thankfully I have met many white, middle and black Africans and Asians who are thankful to be in such a free and blessed land.
Posted by runner, Saturday, 30 June 2012 5:07:33 PM
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