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Egypt's transitional struggles : Comments

By Julie Bishop, published 21/6/2012

At this point in the transition from Mubarak's rule, the military remains firmly in control and the Islamist parties lack the capacity to directly challenge the military in the short term.

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Following on from Geoff it reminds me of how Menzies (Howard's chicken- hawk hero) made a fool of himself during the 1956 Suez crisis. Both Menzies and Howard believed and acted on the premise that the white man is born to rule the entire world.
Rule Britannia, rule Britannia, Britannia rules the seas.

When will they ever learn?
Posted by Daffy Duck, Thursday, 21 June 2012 4:14:49 PM
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The two most dangerous countries on the planet by far are USA and Israel.The USA with over 700 bases around the planet is the supreme military ruler.China is winning via production.This is why the West is now demonising China/Russia.

The USA has 40 bases surrounding Iran.Israel has 200+ nukes.How is Iran a threat (with no nukes) to anyone?

The USA for decades has interferred with the politics on behalf of oil companies in the Middle East.It is all about Corporate Imperialism and these lunatics are trying to pick a fight with China/Russia because they don't want their New World Order.

Guess what Julie? We don't want an unelected World Govt run by the UN either.

The GFC was no accident.It was intended to bring the whole planet to its knees so the New World Order would prevail.That hasn't eventuated so now the psychopaths like WW1 & WW2 want WW3.
Posted by Arjay, Friday, 22 June 2012 7:27:28 AM
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I'll risk a prediction

Whatever the outcome of the current political impasse, a decade from now most Egyptians will be even poorer, hungrier and more desperate than they are today.

And the usual suspects will still be blaming America and Israel for Egypt's plight.
Posted by stevenlmeyer, Friday, 22 June 2012 12:13:27 PM
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Amen to that Steven.

While all countries have their good and evil aspects so much is ambiguous and complex. For example Australia (mild mannered Australians) were willing components of Britain when they did awful things in India and Africa.

Russia and China killing 100 million of their own all be themselves.

Leaving ritualised, total denunciations of Israel and US as simplistic ideologies of those who can't grasp, or won't accept, evil or responsibility in other countries.

Ignorance of Chinese and Russian history ("Oh they're not democracies so not held to the same moral standards...") is always a comfortable ideological cop-out.

Pete
Posted by plantagenet, Friday, 22 June 2012 2:01:20 PM
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Stevenlmeyer,I did some research.Egypt under the auspices of the IMF and Bank of International Settlements has been privatising its banks just like we did beginning 1980.

This means that the private banking system owns the increases in productivity + inflation of Egypt and loans it back to the Egyptian people as debt.The only thing saving us is the mining boom.

Steven it is the Banking Military Industrial Complex that owns and controls the West.It has always been thus.We only have the illusion of democracy since the media determines which puppet gets elected.

The USA spends $ trillions on weapons as does Europe.There are huge profits in war that is why the USA/NATO attacks so many nations.
Posted by Arjay, Friday, 22 June 2012 6:11:17 PM
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And then there is the Russian-oil-FSB-military complex. Russia may be the world's largest oil + gas producer known to cut off supplies and freeze citizens of countries who can't pay up, like the Ukraine.

Meanwhile China is notionally Communist but also more capitalist than the US is now, China has a 2 track economy - a low paid rural population coerced by lack of land, water and jobs into moving to the city for low wages. China is so polluted 100,000s are dieing from it every year, quietly with no redress. But whose counting the statistics are a State secret.

So evil exists outside the US (and Israel) and America's close ally Australia.

Many in the Egyptian miltary sincerely believe they are the savior institution of a country that could turn out like Pakistan or Afghanistan. Then again many in the Egyptian military exploit their position as they rise to the top (ultimately in the Military Council ruling the country). But their might be some honest people in that Council - who knows?

Its all complex - usually requires decades of study, based on data compiled by thousands of academics, policy and intelligence professionals in the West.

Pete
Posted by plantagenet, Friday, 22 June 2012 9:49:51 PM
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