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It's time shooters grew up : Comments

By Tony Smith, published 15/6/2012

It is not a mature and stable personality trait to require killing for one's identity formation.

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If it could be arranged that every legal gun anywhere in the community, could be temporarily confiscated and held by the army, in extremely secure lock and key circumstances! It would demonstrate for once and for all time, that gun crimes are committed by criminals and not the law abiding gun owning community!
I'd bet my house on it!
The criminal element are able, even with the toughest gun laws, to be able to obtain almost any type of weapon they want.
Older style revolvers are apparently easily made in various backyard criminal operations, which are at least as common and portable as backyard drug labs? [The war on drugs is how many decades old?]
Moreover, instead of up-scaling customs operations in ports and container cargo depots, there has been budget constrained down scaling?
It is not guns, bows and arrows, knifes, axes, spears, iron bars and clubs that kill, but rather the hands that hold them!
Japan arguably has the toughest anti gun laws, with the largest most punitive penalties? Yet, it is reported that up to 40% of households hold guns, for personal security? [Laws have to be enforceable to have any real value?]
Side by side with that reported probability, they also seem to have the lowest pro rata break and enter crime rate?
Could the two reported stats have some sort of correlation or interaction? Rhrosty.
Posted by Rhrosty, Sunday, 17 June 2012 10:07:56 AM
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The dilemma with the lack of law abiding & responsibility starts in Kindy & continues to deteriorate all the way through school education. Why ? because our authorities are manned by personnel who themselves lack these attributes required for a decent society. I'd say 99 % of legal gun owners have the required mentality unlike those in the anti gun group who help create the mentality which leads to criminality.
Posted by individual, Sunday, 17 June 2012 10:50:08 AM
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Grow up Tony, more like it! The vast majority of hunters, men and women, are responsible people who do it for a living, to eradicate feral species, as a food source, to enjoy the sport or a combination of some or all the above.

All legitimate shooters and gun owners are required to be licensed, our firearms registered, stored, transported according to completely OTT regulations AND have our privacy invaded by police visitation from time to time to ensure we are doing all these things. We're a hell of a lot more "grown-up" than the average politician, public servant or social engineer types.

I applaud the decision to let hunters into National Parks. Most Parks are havens for all manner of feral vermin and plants because they are simply not managed. Partly because as soon as any plan to cull ferals becomes public knowledge there is inevitably a groundswell of protesters crying and beating their chests over the poor horses, piggies, puppy dogs or pussy cats and idiots waving "Stop the Killing" placards ...

Hunters will be far and away more selective than current methods like poison or trapping and much more humane. It has the potential to be a win, win situation. And if it turns out to be otherwise - cull the program. Easy! We grown ups can work that out ....
Posted by divine_msn, Monday, 18 June 2012 2:49:37 PM
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The O'Farrell government in NSW caved in to the gun lobby last weekend supporting a 'Shot Expo' allowing the merchants of death, Gaddafi weapons supplier ‘Beretta’ and other gun manufacturers to co-sponsor the two day 'kill fest' in Sydney promoting guns, knives and pistols from across the globe. There were plenty of feral's in attendance, unfortunately none were of the rabbit variety.
Posted by Paul1405, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 7:27:06 AM
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Tony Smith falls for two common myths that are usually propagated by Greens and rabid anti-gunners.

First myth is that hunters will have no beneficial effect in National Parks. Yet hunters have eliminated foxes from areas of the Flinders Ranges National Park, and as a result, the endangered Yellow Footed Rock Wallaby has become re-established.

Second myth is that hunters are morally inferior to those with more refined sensibilities, such as Tony Smith. It's not a mature and stable personality trait to rely on feelings of moral and intellectual superiority, based on mis-information, for one's identity formation.

I hope Tony Smith does not eat meat, or use any products such as leather that require an animal be killed. Or else he would be nothing more than a mis-informed (ie. ignorant) hypocrite.
Posted by Eddystone, Wednesday, 20 June 2012 12:45:13 AM
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We had a timely reminder yesterday of the mentality of the pro gun 'macho' boys sitting in the New South Wales Legislative Council. the Shooters Party's Robert Brown threatened the Greens MP Jeremy Buckingham with violence saying "Unfortunately we're in a modern era so I can't take you (Jeremy Buckingham) outside and beat you to death."
Was Jeremy fortunate that Brown was not toting his AK47? We'll never know. This bloke Brown speaks for, and leads the rest of the pro gun rabble. Lets hope that any of us never meet up with these guys in a National Park and step on their toes, we may find we are no longer in "modern times" as Brown likes to put it.
Posted by Paul1405, Friday, 22 June 2012 9:05:00 AM
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