AGW is a failed 'theory'; any peaker that conflates the 'horror' of peak oil with CO2 driven catastrophic climate change is not worth listening to for two reasons.

There is a very good reason for “Peak Everything” to crop up persistently in these debates. The origins can be found in the history of “Sustainable Development” with its origins back to the Club of Rome, the Brundtland Commission, UNEP’s Agenda 21 and the Kyoto Protocol.

Sustainable Development has three core elements; these are “The Steady State Economy”, “Managed Recession” and “Degrowth” (in many manifestations). Every one of these is totally dependent upon assigning an artificial “Peak” value to and the “rationing” of all supplies of natural resources, human populations, and stocks of human-built capital.

Without the direct or implied threats of “limits” there can be no basis for imposing Sustainable Development upon industrialized nations.

These ideological thought bubbles are where we are heading and I don’t hold out much hope of stopping them now, not after 40 years of grinding ideological stealth and spreading UN/EU tentacles.

If we wish to see real life examples of “The Steady State Economy”, “Managed Recession” and “Degrowth”, just take a look at the once vibrant EU.

The sheer volume of United Nations organizational bodies, committee’s groups, sub groups, reports, papers, definitions and abstracts is nothing short of astonishing. In addition to the dozens of front line SD bodies, almost every other UN body has adopted its own principles and charter in relation to SD.

If we need examples of just how malignant and really ugly this can get;

“Tens of millions of pounds of UK aid money have been spent on a program that has forcibly sterilized Indian women and men, the Observer has learned. The Department for International Development in 2010 cited the need to fight climate change as one of the key reasons for pressing ahead with such programs. The document argued that reducing population numbers would cut greenhouse gases, although it warned that there were "complex human rights and ethical issues" involved in forced population control. --Gethin Chamberlain, (The Observer, 15 April 2012)”

Now this IS sick!

I give up Curmudgeon. When I have ever said oil is about to run out? Show me the post? But then that is the debate style of the trolls that we see again and again - repeated false attributions of ideas and statements. And then you simply repeat your same unfounded assertions over and over again. (Go and look a the rate of production expected from the deepwater off Brazil and then tell me how that is going to save the world economy.) Trying to debate you is just a waste of time....

"Now this IS sick!"

It is misanthropy and it is misanthropy which informs every aspect of the green movement and its many horesemen of the apocalypse, with AGW and peak oil being top of the insidious heap.

The dominant agent of the greens is the UN, the world's biggest and most corrupt bureaucracy which wants nothing more than financial independence; this financial independence would be best achieved through being the banker for international carbon credit trading.

AGW is inherently misanthropic as is the peaker syndrome.

michael_in_adelaide

no its you who are wasting my time.. now there is some excellent material being produced on oil production and even warning of an oil shock, which is perfectly possible in the current circumstances.. you would learn so much if you would get busy and look at the material being produced now and dump peak oil.. as an analytical tool it is of no use..

No matter what attitude is taken to peak oil, there is a major problem
coming down the road and the only ones who can at the very least warn
the population and get them to take notice are the politicians.

When is Martin Ferguson going to stand up and spell it out like it is ?