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Why are we not holding the government accountable for sex abuse? : Comments

By Angela Sdrinis, published 30/4/2012

In allowing the focus to remain on Churches and non-Government institutions, the Baillieu Government has conveniently sidestepped any scrutiny of the government's conduct.

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"...the focus of the debate has been on the Catholic Church and its role in hiding the incidence of sexual abuse of children within its ranks..."

Yes, because this is a huge well-documented institutionalised abuse of power that has been going on for decades -- and is still going on -- and needs to be stamped out. When that's done, then we can move on to look at the activities of individuals in and out of government. But right now your article looks like nothing so much as an attempt to distract the pursuit of justice away from the main game.
Posted by Jon J, Monday, 30 April 2012 7:31:42 AM
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There are many instances of convictions of parents for sexual and other abuse of their children . Probably , other instances have occurred , where there have not been convictions .

Let 's have a Royal Commission into real and potential sexual and other abuse of children by parents and all other persons who may have committed such abuse .

Religions and governments are unpopular , hence the current demands for royal commissions into their activities . Australia is going through a media inspired fascination with sexual abuse which will not help those who have genuinely been abused , even if they are awarded compensation .

Further , without denying that real abuse occurred , there are persons who are encouraged to search the corridors of their minds to look for long forgotten memories of events which may point to sexual abuse , assisted by psychologists and counsellors .

Such persons , who are suffering various forms of trauma [ sometimes self induced through alcohol and drug abuse ], look for somebody other than themselves who may have caused their problems .

Instead of seeking to " hold accountable " somebody else , perhaps some persons would be better off trying to deal with their problems , whether self - caused or caused by others .
Posted by jaylex, Monday, 30 April 2012 8:08:41 AM
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Hehe, making government accountable for abuse?

"Abuse" is the government's first name, middle name and last name, its raison d'etre is to rape us - not necessarily sexually, but to rob away our autonomy over our own lives in every possible way.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Monday, 30 April 2012 10:56:05 AM
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Why are we not holding the government accountable for the abuse we suffered as children?

The government paid different organisations, including religious, to take care of all our needs. The institutions had a duty of care to the children. The government also owed the children a duty of care. It was up to the government and relevant departments to follow up on that duty of care. Both are responsible by law to have duty of care.

In my case I was in Eden Park Boys’ Home in Mt Barker, run by the South Australian Property Trust entity of the Salvation Army, the Head Office is in Victoria.

According to the Inquiry by Justice Mullighan, the child welfare services were more concerned about upsetting the Brigadier at the home than the welfare of the boys. Mullighan Inquiry into Children in State Care http://www.sa.gov.au/subject/Crime,+justice+and+the+law/Mullighan+Inquiry/Children+in+State+Care

A Royal Commission will at least put the truth out there for both sides. Most of us want to move on – if only it was that simple. Both sides know and are afraid to face the truth of what happened. We have had to do it, now it is the turn of the institutions and government.

Just to respond to a few other comments: (i) media inspired fascination with sexual abuse – the more the media expose sexual abuse, the more we learn how wide-spread it was and still is.
(ii) as for memories – for most of us the memories can never be altogether forgotten – we wish!
(iii) the so-called ‘self-induced’ drug and alcohol abuse stems from feelings of lack of acceptance, lack of help and understanding and simply trying to bury the past. People are accountable for what happened, they were put in positions of trust and responsibility and were paid to care for the children. A Royal Commission would help to answer the many questions that need to be asked.

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Posted by 44, Monday, 30 April 2012 2:38:27 PM
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you only need to see how the current Federal Government reacted to the Slipper sexual harassment allegations to see that holding on to power is more important than doing the right thing. You also only need to listen to those supporting the pervert industry to know that their little bit of debauchery is more important to them than the welfare of kids who are abused as a direct result of people feeding on this trash. Any person with a heart must feel for victims of child abuse however the current trend to make everyone a victim is sickening. Parents today on the whole are a whole lot worse than many parents of yesterday. The rate of abuse by stepfathers is much higher than the natural father. Little however will be done about it because the rights feminism scream for trump that of kids.
Posted by runner, Monday, 30 April 2012 3:24:58 PM
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Runner, children are also abused in their "homes", by parents indoctrinating them with extreme religous ideology.
Posted by Kipp, Monday, 30 April 2012 4:13:29 PM
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<<Runner, children are also abused in their "homes">>

Just wondered what happened to family-homes that they were segregated within quote-symbols - now even calling the place where you live and grow up with your family a home has become politically-incorrect by the humanistic/socialist regime?

Is it because of the extreme humanistic ideology according to which a child belongs and owes allegiance to the whole of society rather than to his/her natural parents? That a child must not waste his/her time and energy serving God because s/he is born to slave for society and its government instead?
Posted by Yuyutsu, Monday, 30 April 2012 4:28:24 PM
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Kipp:

…You’d be hopeless in a fight if your wide swinging “hay-maker” against “runner”, with your eyes obviously shut, were any example. A more succinct example of indoctrination in the home would have to be that of same-sex partners fostering children, wouldn’t you agree? A more damaging circumstance to children, I could not imagine!
Posted by diver dan, Monday, 30 April 2012 6:41:31 PM
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Kipp

'Runner, children are also abused in their "homes", by parents indoctrinating them with extreme religous ideology.'

Many children won't survive the womb with extreme secular dogma. That is the ultimate child abuse.
Posted by runner, Monday, 30 April 2012 6:54:17 PM
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Runner, are you suggesting that only 'secular' minded people have abortions?

Sorry to burst your bubble, but the religious line up for abortions just as often as anyone else.

Maybe the hard line against contraceptives by many religions could be the reason why this happens all too often...
Posted by Suseonline, Monday, 30 April 2012 10:39:02 PM
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Suseonline,

Runner, are you suggesting that only 'secular' minded people have abortions?

No, Christians sometimes act like secular (abort babies) and occassionally secular people value life (as taught by Christ). Child abuse to the worse degree whether by someone calling themselves a Christian or someone claiming the pseudo science high ground.
Posted by runner, Monday, 30 April 2012 11:09:30 PM
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The” Posted by 44” is very tacking and painful to shallow that human been had be abuse in such way, I’m deeply sorry for all that had be abused.
Justice need certainly to be carry out and I’m agree the state must be hold responsible for the omerta and failure to protect children’s.
I agree that a Royal commission is needed and the immediate act to keep the document safe, if they will be destroy will be another miscarriage of justice, worse as the victims had suffer enough and will more.
Is absolutely necessary that state, institution and people responsible to be made accountable.
My profound and sincere love to all the victims, I pray that they will be receive justice and apology, the SORRY a least from the state.
Posted by luigi gigi, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 12:13:19 AM
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Passing the buck while employing and supporting mates is the most for any commission.

Own wages and perks are the most-what might be a point in all these investigations at all if nothing changes in general but different faces under wigs and robes?
Posted by myforum, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 3:02:34 AM
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