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Quo Vadis Australia : Comments

By David Wilson, published 24/4/2012

Materialism and individualism are risk factors in our society that need to be closely watched.

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While masculinity in itself may be a "simplistic" response, I do not doubt I made a very valid point.
The vast majority of social science research is conducted by leftists, those with effeminate characters, those who are easily offended, therefore, finding (or should I say "inventing"?) "problems" and "crises" everywhere comes as no surprise. On the other hand, if social science research was conducted by masculine characters, then most of the problems highlighted would not be problems at all, as masculine characters are more likely to accept the harsh nature of the world.
Posted by Aristocrat, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 1:16:09 PM
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Thanks, David for you article. You have clearly noted that any possible solution to the issues we face in this land will not be simple. I am unable to see how you are leading us to a simple solution.
Not least of the difficulties we have in addressing our society's problems is getting people to the roundtable discussion, many of whom who will have interests in maintaining the status quo. They must be serious about looking beyond their own interests, and have a willingness to make personal sacrifices to achieve the well being for our society that you speak of.
It will also be essential that we all put away our prejudices and work togther if we are going to seek viable solutions to our society's problems. If we are going to be serious about helping our youth find meaning in their lives, for example, particularly when life has been cruel to them, the rest of us must lay down our cynicisms and prejudices and seek to work togther if we are going to genuinely help them. Indeed the attitudes and example of the older generations are crucial in helping our young people. We can contribute to the welfare of our youth, and indeed wider society, in the attitudes we carry and the example we provide in the way we live
Posted by loverofoz, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 1:51:44 PM
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'It could be said that there are many simplistic answers to life’s problems, and a few of them popped up in the blogs. According to some, answers to the brokenness of the social environment include voting, risk taking, and masculinity to name just three. Simplistic to say the least, perhaps even worse than a Sunday School ‘Jesus’ in answer to all questions raised.'

With your intolerant anti-masculine anti-christian attitude on display in this comment, how could you seriously include those expressed views in your 'community development approach'.

Obviously it is reasonable to conclude your 'community development approach' only seeks to include views aligned to your own whimpish outlook..
Posted by imajulianutter, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 7:02:05 PM
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I'm not sure how I turned from being a 'Jesus is the answer' person to being 'anti-Christian' (imajulianutter) in one blog, but nevertheless, I'm certainly not anti-Christian. I also believe that I can work with anyone who is open to searching for common ground for the common good. We have to work together for the benefit of society and in particular for the future of the next generations. I won't deny where I'm coming from and I wouldn't ask you to deny your core beliefs but we have to learn to work together.
David Wilson
Posted by sophiathinktank, Thursday, 26 April 2012 12:43:09 AM
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Dear David Wilson,

"I also believe that I can work with anyone who is open to searching for common ground for the common good. We have to work together for the benefit of society"

What do you mean by "we have to"? Is it that if I don't then you will shoot me?

I have no idea what "common good" means - there is one good which indeed is common to us all - that is God, but from the context it doesn't seem that this is what you alluded to, so why else (other than being shot otherwise) would I want to work together with you on fortifying a mechanism that oppresses individuals and promotes the lowest common denominator, materialistic indulgence and vain culturalism? Why else would I want to benefit that beast?

"and in particular for the future of the next generations."

In other words, that we must sacrifice the only time which we really have - NOW, THE PRESENT, for an illusion of a future for the next generation, which in turn will sacrifice their present for others' futures, ad nauseam. Why should there be future generations in the first place, who will then suffer in turn from society's oppression and vanity?
Posted by Yuyutsu, Thursday, 26 April 2012 1:47:07 AM
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david/quote...""We have to work together..for the benefit of society"

yu/quote>>..""What do you mean by "we have to"?
Is it that if I don't..then you will shoot me?""

society is a construct
a good sopciety begins..off a base..[4..the base]
meeting need not stupidity or greed

""I have no idea..what "common good" means
there is one good..which indeed is common to us all -that is God,""

common good..is our work productivity
how hard..we comminers..work for our bettors
workers working just to survive..cant be slaves..[oops]

""but from the context..it doesn't seem
that this is..what you alluded to,..so why else?""

if it's not of god[good]
its a faulse idol

(""other than being shot otherwise)..would I want to work
together with you on fortifying a mechanism that oppresses individuals and promotes the lowest common denominator,""

not me neither

""materialistic indulgence and vain culturalism?""

for the common stocks

""Why else..would I want to benefit that beast?""

for the common market?
state colluded enslavement..in lue of service?

"and in particular..for the future of the next generations."
yep..just like their fathers..before them[under lien to anyone who gets state licence/permit..warrent or grant..to exploit the common wealth..held under the lie..of the common weal

we aere all
enjoined living mortal/heirs
of the immortal immaterial good..as a mater of trust

and our..trustees are failing big time

""In other words,.that we must sacrifice

the only time which we really have..NOW/THE PRESENT,

for an illusion...lol..of a future for the next generation,
which in turn..will sacrifice their present for others' futures, ad nauseam.""

informed concent..or treasonous ignorances?

""Why should there be future generations..in the first place,
who will then suffer..in turn from society's oppression..and vanity?""

born enslaved
died with enslaved minds

shame[you to whom..much was a given*
Posted by one under god, Thursday, 26 April 2012 10:07:40 AM
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