Boylesy
Do you understand demographic momentum?
I would have liked for the population to not grow to perhaps 10 billion and then decline for many reasons, not the least being the ecological costs and also many of the reasons Divergence outlined.
What do you want to do? Kill people? You are nuts calling people enemies and simply show your ignorance.

<Do you understand demographic momentum?>

Even Nostradamus wasn't so coy. What you and Cheryl are warning about is a prediction of what things will be like in decades time. My understanding of such forecasts is that they become useful when you print them out then recycle them as bog roll. So why use a dodgy long range forecast to avert imagined future problems, when those desicisions are creating such real and present economic harm?

<Even so, I am no apologist for wasteful consumption and recognise that it is certainly part of the problem.>

My view differs here, Divergence. The reason India wastes so little reflects the extreme poverty there as compared to developed countries. You might note that in developed countries, the minimisation of waste is seen as a moral choice, and is a decision which is more costly and time consuming. So reducing waste in developed countries becomes a matter of increasing living standards and developing new technologies.

Cheryl

What I support is giving people autonomy over their fertility. How can that possibly be an act of interference?

"What do you want to do? Kill people? "
I will not bother dignifying your idiotic and childish statement with a response!

Demografix I regard you as a political enemy on this issue and I do not resile from stating that.

And I know exactly what demographic momentum and acknowledge there will be global population growth to some extent regardless of what we do about.

But the difference between you and I on this is that you appear to be happy to allow that growth to occur while doing little about it.

Presumably because you do not acknowledge it as a grave risk to our western civilsation.

I advocate that the west do everything in its power to slow that demographic momentum and reduce the peak of the global population as much as possible.

Primarily by mass provision of contraception and family planning service along side food aid etc.

There are many woman in the third world who would love to have the reproductive freedom that western woman enjoy.

However I would not oppose enforced one or two child policies, similar to China, in those countries that deem it to be their best option. For as long as it takes for that demographic momentum to be turned around.

"And I know exactly what demographic momentum and acknowledge there will be global population growth to some extent regardless of what we do about."

Q.E.D.

The anti-pops and their various fifth columns are enemies of the state. Come the next election these anti-family/anti-capitalists will face a far more concerted attack than a blog. I will enjoy their immolation.

http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/money-as-debt/

http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/money-as-debt-promises-unleashed/

http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/money-as-debt-3-evolution-beyond-money/

Demografix and cheryl, I strongly recommend you view this documentary series.

After watching them I would like you to comment on them in here.

It it explains in detail why our money/banking system has locked us into perpetual growth (economic and population) and why eventual catastrophic economic and population collapse is built into this system.

Similar to a game of musical charis where there are no losers while the music is playing. But it is undeniable that eventually the music will end.