Bazz,

"To meet Australian fuel demand, around 15-20% of petrol is imported (mainly from Singapore). Singapore is the regional refining and distribution centre and among the world’s largest."

http://www.aip.com.au/pricing/facts/Facts_about_Petrol_Prices_and_the_Australian_Fuel_Market.htm

I have been a fairly hard taskmaster on the anti-pops and doom and gloomers. This shooting from the lip only further debunks their arguments.

*I have been a fairly hard taskmaster on the anti-pops and doom and gloomers.*

Not really, Cheryl. All that you have shown so far, is your
complete lack of understanding of basic biology and how nature works.
You have shown no good reason as to why we should keep cramming
another billion humans onto the planet, roughly every 12 years now
and you apparently think that it can be done with impunity. So perhaps
its best that you and others who think like you, eventually learn the
hard way.

So just ignore things like the value of the species barrier. Ignore
the unsustainable plundering of the oceans of fish stocks. Cram
them in, cheek to cheek. What we are doing right now, is a bit like
feedlotting ever more people. It will only take one new virus, the
tighter those little human cheeks are packed together, the faster
it will spread. So be it. The human species has clearly evolved far
enough to invent interesting new things, but dumb enough for some
to think that they are above nature. So the species will evenually
learn the hard way.

Thanks Cheryl. That figure would be the current import content.
Maybe my figure was associated with the announcement that East Coast
refineries are to close. Once they close then all petrol will be imported.
Kurnell is to close fairly soon and Brisbane a bit later.
Originally they were intended to only produce diesel but that must have changed.

Yes just checked they are in the process of closing two units at Kurnell.

Also
http://www.smh.com.au/business/fuel-crisis-warning-over-refinery-closures-20120217-1tdep.html

It might take some time to get them closed.

Anyway Cheryl, with Australia declining at near 20% a year soon the
cost of continued production will be more than it is worth.

Before long all our oil products will be imported and with the
refineries closing we can expect to be at greater risk of disruption.

You may as well be talking to a brick wall Bazz.

You can't tell people what they clearly do not want to hear.

Rhrosty,

Your pollyannaesque alternative energy drone lacks maturity. Every modality you mention breaks the Second Law of Thermodynamics. For example wave power is obliterated by anchoring problems in mud and sand. Further storm conditions will ravage installations before they break even. The only reason such alternatives are scientifically tolerated is because they are part of the 'Big Lie' that keeps us all well behaved taxpaying fools when in reality we should be demanding much more from modern Governments and their US$Corporate masters.

Cheryl,

Hard taskmaster to anti-pops? Get real. Women lost the vote for most of human history. Only in the last 80 years or so have they had the vote and since then we have had two world wars as populations have overgrown.

Animal breeders will tell you that most species like dogs and cats are beautiful souls when in small numbers but when they overbreed they try to kill each other for primacy. Humans are no different. The fact that overpopulation negativities exist in Australia are hidden by media wrap ups and government promises as they externalise the costs of BIG AUSTRALIA onto poor communities while the rich Malcolm Frasers get awards for saving boat people when he would NEVER allow them in his backyard. The hypocracy is stunning.

The upshot is that women will again lose the vote possibly within our lifetimes. It is a hell of a lot better than protecting women's endless breeding-rights so men can go to War every 30 years and pay for it with their lives.

It won't take the world long to wake up to the evil of putting wolves in charge of sheep - of putting women who have a vested interest in overpopulation(nee war) vis-a-vis their breeding-rights, in charge of 1/2 of a political system that should be designed for sustainability and peaceful relations with the rest of the world.

To be equal to men and at the same time demand the right to have as many children as you need to make your way in life without using your Brain -IS NOT EQUALITY AT ALL. Its a scam!