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Left’s love lost for Labor : Comments

By Chrys Stevenson, published 27/3/2012

Queensland Labor knew it was going to be a massacre.

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Squuers perhaps some spleen. Suffering badly at the moment from the excesses of CSA and an ex all to happy to misuse a system backed by very dodgy research and ideology.

The absolute tripe mostly implemented by the left under the guise of social justice but which creates massive injustice and that few on the left are ever willing to confront (you being an exception).

R0bert
Posted by R0bert, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 8:10:45 AM
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'Disenfranchised, Labor ‘true believers’ are disembarking the Labor train in disillusioned droves and voting for the Greens and Independents – or perhaps even Katter’s party instead.'

Errr no. Katter got 7%, the Greens vote declined 2% to 7% and the LNP vote went up by 16%... and the number of independents in the Qld LA fell to two. The decline in the labor vote was about 20%.

It would seem most all those disillusioned 'true believers' hopped onto the LNP train carrying them to a Campbell Newman landslide ... as the Labor polling day booth banners told them.

Truely astonishing ... tell the voters at the booth you are going to lose in a landslide and then expect them to vote for a loser... really who came up with that piece of deluded brilliance?

An Humanities trained Advisor?

Newmans first appointment was a Queensland Civil Engineer who was a Liberal Councillor in the Brisbane City Council to the position of Director General Main Roads and Transport. The Labor Party could never have done that.
Posted by imajulianutter, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 9:37:49 AM
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JonJ, I can only assume you have been asleep for the past 4 years. Neoliberalism and the concomitant persistent deregulation of markets, -particularly financial institutions- culminated in the collapse of '08, which certainly didn't “double our collective wealth”. Check your real estate and superannuation values, and please don't forget inflation.
As for “state-run socialist economies collapsing” I think you're a little ahead of yourself. Since before '08, our bacon has well and truly been saved by nasty old socialist China.
You may not like their ideology or 'Humanity' (I certainly don't) but at least be honest enough to give credit where credit's due.
You've had that bridge for decades JonJ. Good luck with selling it, and God knows why you bought it in the first place.
Posted by Grim, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 9:45:23 AM
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It is highly documented fact that the chronological events of GFC BEGAN long before 2008 with the Clinton administration suing Fanny Mac etc in Federal Court.

The Clinton Democrats won the suit against the lending organizations which claimed discriminatory lending practices towards low income earners.

This is the start of the snow ball rolling down the hill.

To accuse the financial system of being 100% at fault is a gross exaggeration. They certainly played a significant part but when private enterprise competing as lending institutions is then forced by a court decision into lending to people who can not afford to repay the loan any reasonable person would conclude that the lawsuit is the primary cause.

A most recent book has come out alleging another component, Middle Eastern manipulation of financial markets when realities of the weaknesses of financial markets presented as another opportunity to 'attack' the West.
Posted by Cowboy Joe, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 10:06:43 AM
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"It is highly documented fact that the chronological events of GFC BEGAN long before 2008..."
I quite agree, Joe. So did Neoliberalism.
Another, and I would argue much greater contributor to the crash so the gradual reinterpretation and eventual repeal of the Glass-Steagell act.
The utopian dream that unregulated markets will be of greatest benefit to everyone is just that. A dream. Allowing financial institutions to regulate themselves is precisely akin to giving your house keys to the guild of thieves.
In the absence of the Rule of Law, the strong will always exploit the weak.
Posted by Grim, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 2:53:48 PM
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Hmmm... A strange article. This is first I've heard the thesis put forward that religion was a major factor in the election result. One of the issues Chrys mentioned which has come up many times as a factor in the result - Traveston Dam debacle - only got one sentence!

But, as many posters have already pointed out, going "back to the Left" would only see Labor marginalized further. All those issues Chrys claims they ought to "go back to" are already held by the Greens. Yet their vote declined.
I think Chrys really misunderstands the feeling of the electorate. People don't want the Left in control at all. They perpetuate a victim-mentality, or guilt industry, are full of wannabe revolutionaries - socialists, communists, feminists, anarchists - can't manage money, and are determined to make successful people pay for being successful.
The reality is the vast majority of people are conservative: They want job security, a healthy wage, minimal crime, to relax, to enjoy, to feel pride in their past and themselves. The Left offer none of this. They want perpetual upheaval of "the system," conflated with a self-depreciating mindset, and a desire for a so-called progressive tax that will only send businesses broke.
Posted by Aristocrat, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 6:29:38 PM
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