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Left’s love lost for Labor : Comments

By Chrys Stevenson, published 27/3/2012

Queensland Labor knew it was going to be a massacre.

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A week is often a long time in politics and longer in 18 months. I see things just a little differently from most of the obviously disenchanted or disenfranchised; albeit, I predicted the political bloodbath?
I see the result as a reaction to absolutism and or extremely arrogant autocrats and their equally dismissive lieutenants?
A critique that applies equally to Krudd?
There simply is no place for fiscal conservative multi millionaires in a party that claims to espouse and or represent the values and aspirations of the working poor and the average battler on struggle street.
Labour will need to rebuild and move into the 21st century as a much more inclusive and democratic organisation that understands its role and the demographic it claims to represent?
It can only do that by returning to traditional core values and the pragmatism of the past; and indeed, once again embrace real reform and nation building vision; none of which is represented or achieved via privatisation; or foreign carpet bagging speculators.
Ireland didn't need them, nor did equally economically depressed Spain! And we need them like a hole in the head!
We need to start to once again represent the wishes and aspirations of our own people; not foreign speculators!
[We don't need them, just their investment funds?]
We have a super fund of over 1.5 trillion and need to make it preferable for local and international fund managers to invest here; rather than offshore in various tax havens or to gain tax reduction outcomes!
[Our so-called leaders need to finally understand; that 50% of something is a whole lot superior to 100% of nothing.]
We need to invest in our own people and their better ideas! We can and should embrace quite massive tax reform and vast simplification; and alternative energy; that is cheaper than coal-fired power.
This is very doable, but only if we reclaim our virtually stolen economic sovereignty and stop pandering to multinational debt laden debt funded speculation; that turns ordinary Australians into virtual economic slaves and or, mere tenants in their own country. Rhrosty.
Posted by Rhrosty, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 12:03:57 PM
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Grim,
considering the comments by Clive Palmer that his CIA rant was to take the focus off Newman, implying there might be more dirt dug up, I would say the wheels will start falling off in about 2 months, maybe less.

The CMC said they were not looking at Newman BUT they are still looking at the dodgy donations made to his mayoral fund. The fact remains that 70,000 was donated over a short time by 7 different companies owned by the same joker - and - a property development was approved against council laws/guidelines.

Another fact is that Newman's brother-in-law tried to put his hand out for a contract after the flood. The web of complex company dealings is all there.

So how long before Queenslanders get pinged off trying to keep track of his business dealings - or watching to see if his family might get perceived extra concessions in business deals.

Already, Newman is set to replace people in the top jobs with his mates - which may be standard practice except he ridiculed Anna and the ALP for doing just that.

I think Queenslanders will be watching him closely as he was elected, not because people trust him but as a means to get the ALP out.

If Labor makes changes to democratise the party, and ditch Gillard and there might be a chance for them in 2013.
Posted by Aka, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 12:26:42 PM
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"a party headed by educated, critical thinkers whose policies are based on unbiased research, credible evidence and universal human values", using unbiased rsearch, credible evidence and universal human values is hardly going to sit well with the left.

Maybe "a party headed by humanities educated, agenda driven thinkers whose policies are based on advocacy research, selective evidence and win at any cost values" might be closer to something that would keep the middle left happier.

R0bert
Posted by R0bert, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 12:32:22 PM
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Only the middle left, RObert?
Are you seriously suggesting Abbott and Co. are above such petty concerns?
Posted by Grim, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 2:22:02 PM
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Hello Rhosty,

I just wanted to say how impressed I was with your post. It’s so easy in today’s internet based society to simply pull together a bunch of someone else’s opinions, quotes and 6th form sociology texts, that we often miss the real talent of original thought.

So often we hear such as “disenchanted or disenfranchised”, “reaction to absolutism”, “arrogant autocrats”, “values and aspirations of the working poor”, “embrace real reform and nation building vision”, “foreign carpet bagging speculators”, virtually stolen economic sovereignty, “ which “turns ordinary Australians into virtual economic slaves”.

I couldn’t help but marvel at the pure originality and creative socialist orthodoxy embraced in your humanitarian symbolism. Too often we dismiss such international citizenship and ecological passion, as merely the prattling of poorly educated and socially self indoctrinated urban elites.

Fortunately, such thoughts are confined to the ultra-right wing realists who marvel at the utter incomprehensible drivel that is indulged by modern society. You are to be commended for your ability to take so many overdone socio-political constructs and turn them into something quite incomprehensible.

Incomprehensibility is a goal that more Australian’s should aspire to, you are an inspiration to those who are utterly incapable of original thought. I think you should be nominated as a future “Australian of the Year”. Don’t dismiss this as a pipe dream; remember we did this for Tim Flannery.

Keep up the good work and thank you for sharing your insights.
Posted by spindoc, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 2:30:18 PM
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Grim, I didn't mention Abbott. I referred to a point made in the article and gave my take on what I think is a closer representation of a lot of left values. Not all.

When someone from the right publishes and article suggesting a push further to the right as being a solution and put's up a comment in a similar then they can have a similar response, maybe theologically educated rather than humanities though.

R0bert
Posted by R0bert, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 3:19:06 PM
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