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The journey to gender equality in Australian workplaces : Comments

By Helen Conway, published 23/3/2012

As employees women are superior so why after decades of debate is gender equality in the workplace still elusive.

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Women are about to overtake men as the main breadwinner in the family. Studies suggest women aged 18-30 already earn more than men aged 18-30. This means men will soon have no role left to fill in society, thus, creating a masculinity crisis, especially amongst working class/ high school educated males. There was never a feminity crisis.
Posted by progressive pat, Friday, 23 March 2012 9:21:34 AM
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This is old ground. It's already been proven that the wage gap is due to other issues than a supposed patriarchy. Women choose to go into lower paying sectors, like teaching and nursing, for example; they also choose to stay at home rather than work when raising a family. So there is obviously going to be a wage gap when this is the case. Furthermore, if it's money that is your sole interest in employment, then apply for jobs where the market is more generous. Instead of moving into teaching and nursing, go into mining or engineering
Posted by Aristocrat, Friday, 23 March 2012 9:36:28 AM
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@ Aristocrat,

It's also old ground that men will continue to earn more than women.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/nov/27/young-women-earning-more-men

Women make up 60% of university graduates (the best indicator for future earnings is a degree), and young women already earn more than men. Even when these women have children, they're only off work and on tax payer funded maternity leave for 6 months to a year, and then the child is placed in tax payer subsidised childcare.

The new reality and broad trend is that women will be the main breadwinner and care for the children after work, while men will play video games.
Posted by progressive pat, Friday, 23 March 2012 10:20:07 AM
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Now, there's a big broad brush statement for you. From progressive pat - "The new reality and broad trend is that women will be the main breadwinner and care for the children after work, while men will play video games."

This is fabulous news patty. When is this likely to come about?

I agree that it's about time women started to do some real work about the place and display doting support to their menfolk. Especially now that women have become redundant in their traditional role of having babies - world overpopulation you know. Yes, it's time they started to pull their weight after the centuries of coddling and pampering that men have lavished on them.

Bring it on!

Get all those lazy women's obese derrieres off their fancy leather couches. Put an end to them watching Oprah and Dr Phil, whining about what's the newest social and entertainment gossip to be worried about. Get them out into the mines, out onto the offshore oil rigs, get them out to work building roads, railways and skyscrapers. Make these women do a hard dangerous day's labour while hubby sits at home on the internet and plays video games. Even better, he can spend all the woman's money on highly sophisticated big-boy's toys. Of course, women will have to supply sufficient money for all these things.

Oh well, a man (and progressive pat) can dream. If only this would all come true. Nirvana!

A man could stay at home being pampered and coddled, while his wife and family toiled daily to support his every wish and desire (and maybe his girlfriend's too).

But alas progressive pat, university degrees in liberal arts, social politics and culture, witchcraft, hexes and spells don't bring home much bacon, as the Euro-zone nations and the so called university ej-a-kaaated women are just right now finding out.

Nope. Never gonna happen. Although I do deeply appreciate the wonderful sentiment of your thoughts there progressive pat. It's a wonderful vision you do have.

All hail the superior woman employee - but who is she?
Posted by voxUnius, Friday, 23 March 2012 11:52:52 AM
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Ha. Well said VoxUnius. Maybe when women work longer hours than men, take less sick leave, retire older and then have the common decency to die younger (saving the taxpayer the enormous costs involved with medical care for seniors), we will have achieved equality. Then we'll be able to talk about men's superannuation being inadequate.

But of course it will never happen. The fact is women are already much better off than men. It's just they're never happy. Like petulant children they always demand more. These demands aren't based on any objective quantifiable measure but a belief that they are just so much more important than men. They just feel they deserve more for less.

At the end of the day it will need to be men who take responsibility for women's behaviour. Women are very keen on entitlements but less so when it comes to reponsibilites. So I guess the fault lies in men who for centuries treated women as special. We shouldn't be surprised now that women's concept of 'equality' really means 'special'.
Posted by dane, Friday, 23 March 2012 12:33:45 PM
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it's a real shame that the text inviting us to read this article advocating gender equality reads "As employees women are superior ..."

In my experience, women are not superior employees to men. Nor are men superior to women.

In my youth, feminism in the workplace meant fighting for gender equality - the same employment rights and the same pay for doing the same job. This is still worth fighting for, but it has been misappropriated by a radical feminist perspective that perceives men and women as virtually separate species, with fundamentally different values, qualities and priorities with the feminine being superior. In the process, parts of the feminist movement have become the mirror image of the gender-based bigotry that feminism once opposed.
Posted by Rhian, Friday, 23 March 2012 4:13:33 PM
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