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By Daniel Meyerowitz-Katz, published 17/2/2012

Being ideological rather than pragmatic is more than half the problem for Israel's Palestinians.

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Being ideological rather than pragmatic is more than half the problem for Palestine’s Israelis.

There fixed that.
Posted by Kenny, Friday, 17 February 2012 7:17:04 AM
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What can you do with those recalcitrant 'Palestinians'? So ideologically committed to their homeland, their families, their heritage-such fanatics.
Posted by mac, Friday, 17 February 2012 8:14:11 AM
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If the Arabs of Eastern-Jerusalem, currently with permanent-resident status, would have exercised their entitlement to become Israeli citizens and vote, then by now they could have tipped the election-results and instead of Netanyahu, Israel would have had a peace-government that would give them independence.

It seems that despite the garbage in the streets, bumpy roads and open sewers, they prefer Israel's rule over the corrupt Palestinian Authority or the Islamic-fanatic Hamas.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Friday, 17 February 2012 9:24:47 AM
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Ah another Singer clone singing the same song one settler lover on here is enough,you should apply to the Israeli propaganda ministry mate I,m sure they will welcome you with open arms.
You never know they might pay you as well,do you think you might throw rocks at an occupying force and the people it send in to view the occupied
Posted by John Ryan, Friday, 17 February 2012 12:27:38 PM
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"do you think you might throw rocks at an occupying force and the people it send in to view the occupied"

Wow Daniel, these are serious allegations leveled against you by John Ryan.

Is it true that you and your fellow Australian students were in fact:
1. sent there by the occupying force?
and that
2. the purpose of your trip was to view the occupied?

Be honest about it - we need a full inquiry about who initiated that bus-trip of yours into occupied East-Jerusalem and for what purpose.

(who knows how evil the roots of this story are, we may end up discovering that the real purpose of taking this bus-trip instead of walking, was to viciously pollute the atmosphere with CO2 emissions)
Posted by Yuyutsu, Friday, 17 February 2012 12:49:03 PM
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i believe the auther
where he says..quote...""What,then,
motivated a local youth..[semite?]..with an impressive arm
to hurtle rocks..at us as we drove past?""

you know..it could be mossad..orders
ordering him..to throw..so you will now be a good jew..[or good goyum]

but you asked what motivated him?

so lets go and find out

he may have read some of this tripe
http://desertpeace.wordpress.com/2012/02/16/israeli-racism-much-worse-than-i-thought-it-was/

he might have relitives[semites...under threat as exiles
chosen from their homelands..into a war zone..in syria
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laOVOBoFtIQ&feature=g-u-u&context=G2612797FUAAAAAAAAAA

or see the logic..
http://uruknet.com/?p=m84731&hd=&size=1&l=e
of getting syria..to get iran
http://www.voltairenet.org/Endgame-in-the-Middle-East

us dont want ron paul
so want a swift war
lol
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/NB17Ak04.html

gulp
http://vidrebel.wordpress.com/2011/12/31/5-minutes-to-self-immolation-of-the-israeli-empire/

even..the seals wont buy into it
http://poorrichards-blog.blogspot.com/2012/02/surprise-surprise-navy-seals-dont-want.html

or might think that plan is unworkable
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/02/15/u-s-says-syrian-referendum-plan-is-laughable/

he might be right and think..he is living under appartheid
http://www.haaretz.com/jewish-world/u-s-jews-battle-apartheid-charges-made-against-israel-1.413187?localLinksEnabled=false

but why
http://stratrisks.com/geostrat/4049

or he may be seeing
http://veracityvoice.com/?p=13619

how the mossad..goyum plan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRItO4rRFlw&list=PL722DB08DC1A53BA2
has born its fruits..[911 worked well]

http://www.blacklistednews.com/25_Signs_That_The_Nazification_Of_America_Is_Almost_Complete_/17982/0/0/0/Y/M.html

how?
mossad..!
insider trading
http://ning.it/wNXafk

he may be angry following this black op
http://revoltoftheplebs.wordpress.com/2012/02/15/is-iranian-government-behind-recent-string-of-bombings-not-bloody-likely/

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/report-mossad-chief-visited-new-delhi-days-before-attack-on-israeli-officials-1.413260

or know of many far worse genocides
http://lonestarwatchdog.blogspot.com/2012/02/sorry-israel-there-are-genocides-worse.html

maybe he is just sick
of living in a prison camp
striking out blindly..cause he dont get why

http://www.bushstole04.com/
http://whatreallyhappened.com/
http://revolutionarypolitics.tv/video/viewVideo.php?video_id=17792
Posted by one under god, Friday, 17 February 2012 4:30:43 PM
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"one under god" is on the right track, but not quite there yet:

It might be because the Americans didn't land on the moon.

Or maybe because Tupac and Biggie are out there smoking blunts with Elvis.

Or maybe he was inspired by Barak Obama's secret jihadi preaching.

But then, it could always that he was abducted in a crop circle and subjected to an anal probe. That would make anyone angry.

Hmmm... the mystery of it all...
Posted by NQD, Friday, 17 February 2012 5:07:02 PM
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ndq...sticks and stoners mate

only the moon one is right
how could nasa..have lost all that info

why cant hubble zoom in on the sacred footprints
man may have landed on the moon..but that wasnt what we saw on tv

that was filmed as a backup
but thats not what the toopic is about

so mate..i will ignore..the off topic troll
and visit my site..and catch up on todays issues

the drive seems to be
to spring..a surprise attack..on iran..via syria
http://poorrichards-blog.blogspot.com/2012/02/israels-herds-hunger-for-war-with.html

all that smoke/and mirrors
http://revolutionarypolitics.tv/video/viewVideo.php?video_id=17844&title=u-n--plans-assad-assassination---multiple-sources-confirm-ground-invasion-of-syria

but the beast
reveals its face..in the sticks..and the stones

great..the un
seems to be on it
http://uruknet.com/?p=m85781&hd=&size=1&l=e

add that
to the seals/link..last time

the hunger strikers..deaths
wont be accidental
http://uruknet.com/?p=m85783&hd=&size=1&l=e

the upcoming cost in American blood and American money will be considered by Israeli leadership as a reasonable,.and necessary,

sacrifice upon the altar
of ultimate Israeli hegemony..in the Middle East.
http://theintelhub.com/2012/02/17/fbi-sets-up-another-patsy-this-time-in-fake-us-capital-bomb-plot/

And it is that hubristic attitude, roughly translating as "Americans need to fight and die to neutralize Iran so Israelis don't have to" I find infuriating in the extreme on the part of Israeli leadership.

stuff..a zionist told you
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=vyXD_Kq3q4U#!

In light of the fact that Chinese and Russian officials have gone public in stating that if Iran is attacked by either/or the US and Israel,..they will come to Iran's aid militarily, we are looking at the potential for a full-bore, global nuclear war.

A war of that magnitude will not be viewed from the comfort of a living room, watching as remote places far away get bombed to smithereens, but in cities and neighborhoods where we live, work, and worship.
http://english.alarabiya.net/articles/2012/02/16/195041.html

I would really like to hope that those in the bowels of power in DC and Tel Aviv opt for a far more reasonable approach, rather than indulge in another military misadventure to neutralize yet another of Israel's alleged existential threats in the region.

http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=29359

anyhow
im over talking about it

http://revoltoftheplebs.wordpress.com/2012/02/15/is-iranian-government-behind-recent-string-of-bombings-not-bloody-likely/

http://whatreallyhappened.com/
Posted by one under god, Saturday, 18 February 2012 9:52:36 AM
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Ho hum!

Another completely one-eyed article demonstrating complete incomprehension of the other side's perspective.

For defenders of Israel it is always the Palestinians who are 'ideological' and the Israelis who are 'pragmatic'.

But hang on, isn't Zionism an ideology?

Palestinians feel crowded out of their own homeland. That is not blind irrationality, but entirely understandable.

The way out is a pragmatic deal. Both sides argue they are willing to cut a fair deal, but first the other side should give up everything they hold dear and we should make a few tiny concessions that are easy to make.

And so round and round it goes....
Posted by Michael T, Tuesday, 21 February 2012 7:49:33 PM
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> "only the moon one is right
how could nasa..have lost all that info"

Man I love when my argument is proven for me.

Meanwhile @Michael T, this article actually admits that there is inequality in East Jerusalem and that the Arabs are disadvantaged, and then calls for them to be more integrated into Israeli society. That's actually quite refreshing.

Most articles on the topic say either:

a) Jerusalem is one united city and everyone living there is happy and blissful and there are no problems with the Arabs except for the terrorists.
b) Jerusalem is an apartheid city under an apartheid regime and the Palestinians there are brutally oppressed by the Zionists who are busy stealing their land and being all apartheidy.
Posted by NQD, Tuesday, 21 February 2012 8:24:26 PM
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I don't think so, NQD. The thrust of the argument is that they only have themselves to blame......
Posted by Michael T, Tuesday, 21 February 2012 8:30:30 PM
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