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Costing and commoditising virginity : Comments

By Matthew Holloway, published 19/12/2011

Virginity is not just a product that can be sold as part of an entertainment package.

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Using and abusing women & men, in the form of slavery, including prostitution, has been around since the beginning of time.

Its NOT about gender. Its about POWER. Who has the power?

In today's world women openly boast about having THE power. The girls-night-out epitome is "Find someone you hate and get them to buy you a house!"

Certain people on this thread clearly live under a rock OR assume everyone else does. The STUPIDITY of saying one gender or the other is intrinsically EVIL is such a FRAUD"

Whether female or male: Power corrupts and ABSOLUTE POWER corrupts absolutely. Look at Gillard, her back stab morality and her big PAY-RISE!.

The divisions between rich and poor are NOW reaching levels not seen since the Napoleonic wars, WWI and WWII. The real problem both genders face is the consequent consolidation of power, the erosion of real democratic value and the proximity of global WAR.

The funny thing about WAR though is that when the winners march in the streets, women change sides in a flash and let themselves out to a whole new and exciting market. How delicate and helpless is that. Erstwhile all their menfolk are deceased in battles protecting those same women.

If anyone here really wants to do anything other than express their own vanity, then VOTE against current political pay rises and for CEO remunerations in this country to be pegged to no more than twice that of politicians.

If fat-cats decide to work for other countries, it would be like a planet consuming alien race, stopping mid-meal and finding another planet to consume. ITS THE BEST THAT COULD HAPPEN to us!

These blogs tell me that we have talent and committment in Australia that won't charge us our sovereignty, freedom or dignity to lead & improve our lives.

The moral: YOU CANNOT PAY AVERAGE AUSSIES $40k pa, Com Bank execs $8Mil in BONUSES and expect your children, boys or girls, to be SAFE!
Posted by KAEP, Wednesday, 21 December 2011 12:49:16 PM
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KAEP, "The STUPIDITY of saying one gender or the other is intrinsically EVIL is such a FRAUD"

I am not sure where anyone said that KAEP?

This thread is about the 'wisdom' of women trying to sell their virginity, not men trying to sell theirs.

To me, that means it is about female prostitution, so of course the comments are going to address that issue.

Whether you like it or not, there are far more female prostitutes in the world than male. And most of the male prostitutes service other males.

That's a fact of life.
It does NOT mean all men are evil at all!

You are forgetting that most women have male relatives or friends that they love, even if they 'hate' one male somewhere in their life.

Your sweeping statement ignores that fact.
Posted by Suseonline, Wednesday, 21 December 2011 1:31:44 PM
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Suse,

Perhaps what Runner is getting at is that Lust, like Gluttony, is one of the seven deadly sins - with both denegrating the object of their Greed for Excess, and both leading to an abhorrent Obesity of the body and a corruptive starvation of the spirit (or the soul).

Fortunately, we are more than the sum of our bodily functions - for the story of human achievement would be far different otherwise.

In the end result, the physical and sensory experience of 'having' a top-priced (and suitably expert) 'hooker' (or Gigolo) could not compare with the satisfaction and fulfillment derived from a loving and responsive family life. The substitute is a veiled corruption; and those who are without other options are indeed to be pitied.

But, we live in a world of reality, where these days there is often not much difference between casual sex and paying for it, as far as emotional reward is concerned. Chastity is probably now something of a rarity, and quite possibly attracting derision rather than praise. How times and expectations change.

In my view, a commited partnership will always beat a horde of casual intimacy hands down every time.

As for our two 'virgins', they exemplify our laissez-faire society, but I fear they are bound for many disappointments.

Breaking-in a virgin my well be a bit of a buzz, but I doubt it would be all that memorable or satisfying - unless accompanied by a sincere pre-existing loving commitment by both parties.

The best experiences are probably those new found experiences, after a significant 'drought', and especially with a 'born again' virgin. Best of all if there is a bond of genuine affection and caring, and a willingness for a long term commitment.
Posted by Saltpetre, Wednesday, 21 December 2011 1:37:17 PM
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Suse,

You miss the whole point of my post and egg-on a triviality which you got wrong anyway.

You SAID "using and abusing WOMEN BY MEN, in the form of prostitution, has been around since the beginning of time...long before there were Christians and secularists.

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Sex crimes have been rife within many religions .."

Abuse of women by men --- sex crimes?

Only a man who has not considered a female prostitute misses your "evil" scythe.

As any male who has not at least considered using a prostitute has NO testosterone flows and is technically not a man anyway, you are saying One gender (males) are intrinsically Evil(criminal).
What's more I am certain from the ditsiness of your posts, you believe that.

So why do you deflect the gravitas of my post?

To ignore the reality that YOUR ideal Prince Charming, the man with all the money and cool stuff, is the corporate Bad guy. The one that will debase your gender sideways in the final analysis because they have the POWER.

Some women NEVER get past those Fairy Tales!

When women realise that THEIR OVERPOPULATING our planet to avoiid copulating on it has caused climate change, war, poverty and an unsustainable divide between RICH and poor, will they start using contraception en masse to stabilise world tensions and create sustainability?

I can hear Suse now: "Where's the FUN in that? Eh?.And BTW you mispelled avoid so your argument is rubbish."
Posted by KAEP, Wednesday, 21 December 2011 6:34:45 PM
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"And most of the male prostitutes service other males.

That's a fact of life."

What?! You mean to tell me that 'Deuce Bigalow: Male Gigolo' does not provide an accurate portrayal of male sex workers?

Way to shatter my illusions :(
Posted by Humphrey B. Flaubert, Wednesday, 21 December 2011 11:04:37 PM
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KAEP, I am sorry, but I am way too 'ditsy' to converse intelligently with you...
I think this subject has strayed way off course, so I have nothing more to add.
Posted by Suseonline, Thursday, 22 December 2011 12:50:52 AM
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