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Costing and commoditising virginity : Comments

By Matthew Holloway, published 19/12/2011

Virginity is not just a product that can be sold as part of an entertainment package.

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I agree Pericles with your rational analysis.

But fantasies aren't rational, and some people have money coming out of their ears.

Perhaps the guy has already had 500 different high class hookers for the last 2 years, and is in search of something different he thinks will make him happier.

To some people money is no object. People pay thousands of dollars for a wine before they have ever tasted it. People pay thousands for better HiFi gear that is almost imperceptably better. People look for happiness in all sorts of ways. Maybe he wants to take himslef back to his long lost youth.

I think mere mortals who don't have a lazy mil to throw around will never appreciate what it's like to have that kind of spare change.

It's a fantasy some guys seem to have, and when you have the dosh to make a fantasy real, why not? Personally I think he'd be disappointed as these grand ideas are never all they're cracked up to be.

You sound like an economist. People don't work in rational ways, always looking for value for money. Especially those who have endless money.
Posted by Houellebecq, Monday, 19 December 2011 3:59:50 PM
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I don't think they're actually getting a million are they? That's just what they're hoping for.

I saw an article a while back about a woman who got $35,000 for selling her virginity. Anyway, the guy asked her if she would come back next night, i.e. for free, and seeing as she had had a nice time and thought he was a nice guy, she did. So this went on for some time and, whaddya know, they fell in love and became an item.

It's the naturallest thing in the world. We should not be surprised about it. The only reason people are mystified at the idea that either the woman or the man might actually enjoy themselves is because they only look at it negatively, through western society’s distorted Christian lens.

So looking on the positive side, there's no reason for such a thing to be emotionless, affectionless, and all that. There's no reason why they couldn't find harmony in agreement, and have a pleasant, interesting, relaxing, fun time. It just means instead of giving away her virginity to a young jerk who a) doesn't know how to please her in bed, and b) probably ends up leaving her anyway; she may realise both fun and profit from an older and richer guy who values her highly and probably knows what he's doing.

What would he get? Obviously she would be less skilled in giving and receiving pleasure than a more experienced woman. On the other hand, he has the pleasure and privilege of showing her the way to sexual pleasure, of watching her understanding unfold from tense cluelessness to knowledgeable enjoyment, and of knowing that her response in the throes of climax is a pure instinctual first, unlearnt.

Well you asked a sexual question, so it’s a sexual answer.

It only doesn’t make sense if you assume his interest is purely selfish, ignorant and bad-mannered. Maybe it is, maybe he isn't. But there is still plenty of room in curiosity and serving her pleasure to explain the high value that is put on this experience.
Posted by Peter Hume, Monday, 19 December 2011 5:09:00 PM
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No Houlebecque, I wasn't suggesting all men who 'notice' D-size cups on 15 year olds are 'sick'. I had that problem myself from an even earlier age, and noticed that men of all ages definitely noticed, much to my embarrassment.

The fact remains that girls under the age of 16 are out of bounds to men of any age in our society, and most men will look, but won't touch.

Virgins are usually considered to be young, and some brothels and prostitute parlors can and do charge big money for men to access so-called virgins.
I find the whole thing very sordid.

Why these two women would want to have their first sexual penetration experience with a man who needs to pay money to make anyone have sex with him, is beyond me...
Posted by Suseonline, Monday, 19 December 2011 5:16:14 PM
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MH191211

Pier Paolo Pasolini (writer and film-maker) had the opinion that it is consumerism that causes the commoditizing of the human body as well as the body of every living organism.

In his opinion the ‘mercification’ (considering humans as goods for sale) is the consequence of Power (Power according to Primo Levi being the result of Privilege of man over man).

It is not only virginity at stake Mr. Holloway.
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Kindly consider the fate of Bradley Manning and Julian Assange now one at the mercy of professional killers and the other at the mercy of professional lawyers who also can mandate death.

Would anyone you know have done what they have?

Do you feel that they have betrayed their homeland or that they tried to help humanity?

Sir, if you think that they are the criminals, you are the right man for the position you occupy.
Posted by skeptic, Monday, 19 December 2011 6:59:39 PM
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Guess what?

Your taxes (and mine too!) are paying for this feminist-inspired drivel from the sort of person who deserves sand being kicked in his face! he (it/) doesn't deserve the eyeball time of intelligent citizens.

Every government job is created at the expence of three REAL jobs!
Posted by partTimeParent, Monday, 19 December 2011 8:53:22 PM
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ptp, you are totally wrong in your assertions that this male author is 'feminist inspired'.

It is most certainly written from a male point of view, although I could entertain the view that there were some feminist conspirators behind the scene 'making' him write this drivel.

After all, we are all well aware that there are nasty feminists infiltrating every level of society.
It's all quite frightening really... all those women...
Posted by Suseonline, Monday, 19 December 2011 11:39:12 PM
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