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Are Australians racist? : Comments

By Peter West, published 6/12/2011

How the media framed the 'Cronulla Riots'.

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Current discussions about racism seem to have a fixation with the Lebanese in particular.

It was only ten years ago that we at imminent risk of being "swamped by Asians". Even PM Howard was quoted as feeling "uncomfortable" about seeing Asians faces on Sydney streets.

They were supposed to create enclaves/ghettos, have no national loyalty, be a source of institutionalised crime and refused to assimiliate, not to mention being potential disease carriers.

Despite the rise in migration levels from Asia the "swamping" terror seemed to be magically redirected at another group and the same arguments raised yet again (as they had been previously for Greeks, Italians and all European migrants in general).

I suggest this pattern is fairly indicative with a country that lives in perpetual fear and loathing of outsiders and will use negative racial stereotypes wherever possible.

Is this technically racism or just something we have in the drinking water?
Posted by rache, Saturday, 10 December 2011 9:00:58 PM
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Is this technically racism or just something we have in the drinking water?
rache,
none of the above. It's an inability to take heed of the past & looking ahead by those who believe nothing sinister is brewing. The europeans were like that too. Ask them how they feel now after just one generation of open door policy.
I'd say there are about 300 million people who would turn back the clock in an instant if it were possible.
Posted by individual, Sunday, 11 December 2011 7:41:42 AM
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Suseonline,
*Click-Click* You see the word White and it trips a Pavlovian response in your brain.
You're only calling me a Racist because I'm White, Anti Racism is a code word for Anti White, what's more you haven't even read my posts.
Seems to me you're tarring White Australian people with the term "Racist". This type of behaviour is typical of Anti Racists because they are never held responsible for the things they say or write, it's perfectly acceptable for an anti Racist to post two contradictory statements in the same paragraph, "Generalisations about specific ethnic groups are "Racist", this is a practice typical of White Australian Racists"
See What I mean?
Anti Racists are also permitted to lie outright as long as they are telling lies about White people.
I'm not saying anything about "Lebs" that isn't demonstrably true, see that's another part of Anti Racism, even if my statements are accurate they still want me jailed for "Hate Speech".
Anti Racists are not "do gooders" they are the bad guys, by their actions they condone and cover up rape, violence, drug dealing, stand over, murder and child abuse by non Whites.
Suse, why is it exactly that we are not allowed to see a breakdown of crime stats based on ethnicity of perpetrators?
That'd be a useful tool for, say parents who want to give their kids advice about safety, who to avoid, just to be on the safe side.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Sunday, 11 December 2011 9:02:33 AM
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Rache,
Nobody cared what Howard or Pauline Hanson thought and you've probably watched "Romper Stomper" one too many times.
If you're of a "certain age" you will remember an ABC youth culture program "Beatbox", which aired on Saturday mornings.
I seem to recall a series of interviews by Andrew Denton circa '83-84 with Vietnamese kids who were being bullied, bashed, robbed and stabbed by "Lebs" in the Cabramatta area.
On statement by a Viet kid has stuck with me "They think because we're small and they're big they can do whatever they want to us".
You will recall the "Curry Bashing" fiasco in Harris Park a few years ago, when the "Lebs" were trying to "Clean out" the Indians from the area.
What about the damage they caused by pushing Heroin on aboriginal kids in Redfern? Forgotten that have we?
Cronulla was five hours out of thirty years of problems with "Lebs", it's not even worth mentioning in the context of "Race Relations".
There's a focus on "Lebs" because of what they DO, what they have been DOING since the 1970's, this need not even be a racial discussion save that Anti Racists want to cover up non White crime and always point the finger back at Whites as the cause of the problem.

They say they are Anti Racist, what they are is anti White, Anti Racism is a code word for Anti White.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Sunday, 11 December 2011 9:16:44 AM
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Dear Jay,

I think the only way we're going to get to the bottom of
this problem is by not blaming ANYONE and trying to find
out what the causes are. That we shall never be able to
do if we have the attitude that - "It's what you guys do
that's the problem." That doesn't answer the question
as to why - they do what they do.And perhaps it's also
what we don 't do that counts. It isn't a case of
being "anti Leb," or "anti white." It should be a case
of being "pro" people in general - that might make all the
difference. It's all a bit convenient to fob things of
as "you're anti white," and then blame "It's what Lebs Do."
It then allows them to say the same thing about you. And
a stalemate has been reached - but nothing constructive has
been achieved. We should all be able to do better than that.
Posted by Lexi, Sunday, 11 December 2011 4:19:50 PM
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Lexi,
I agree entirely and I'm more than willing to toss ideas about, I respect your opinions because you present a case for tolerance, Anti Racists however are violently intolerant.
A stalemate is as a good position as you'll get with these people because beyond screaming "NAZI!, RACIST,BIGOT!" they really have no platform on which to base any coherent argument or civilised discussion.
I'm offended by their words, they are offended by mine and never the twain shall meet.
I'm sorry to have to use things like the BUGS Mantra and to keep derailing threads but I don't see why Anti Racists should be allowed to get away with racial slurs like "Redneck", "Bogan", "Nazi" etc
This is actually a question of culpability, of taking responsiblity for one's speech and actions.
If the political cops come knocking on Graham's door asking for my IP details, so be it, I don't expect him to defend me, I take full responsibility for my posts and I'm well read on Anti Discrimination and Vilification regulations.
But Anti Racists should know that the world is not going to stay the same as it is today, that one day the political Police may come looking for them, they need to stop, think and take responsibility for the things they post as well.
Calling White people Racists without being able to back one's claims is offensive, prejudicial and as problematic as any other form of so called "Hate Speech", the laws are written in a way that allows for prosecution of Anti White hate speech, we can't assume that just because today those laws are not uniformly applied that at some point in the future there won't be a change in the way they are interpreted.
Anti Racists need to be held accountable for their words and they must provide proof of so called "Racism", not be allowed to get away with saying anything they like about White Australians with nothing more than opinions and speculation as the basis of their claims.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Sunday, 11 December 2011 6:20:20 PM
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