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IAEA credibility and Iran’s nuclear program : Comments

By Abolghasem Bayyenat, published 17/11/2011

The IAEA is straining very hard to find any evidence of military use of Iran's uranium.

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The decision to flog uranium to India makes the continued harrassment of Iran seem all the more inexplicable, unless you factor in Israel and its phobias.
What an unstable region the Indian subcontinent is, dominated as it is by the incendiary long term rivalry of India and Pakistan, yet it seems even India is ok, but not Iran.
"Two legs bad; four legs good"?
Posted by paul walter, Thursday, 17 November 2011 6:43:17 AM
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Paul, I do not find the "continued harassment of Iran to be "inexplicable.
1. "Israel and its phobias". The publicly stated objective of "wiping Israel off the map" has come from the Iranian Government on several occasions.
2.Iran has a track record of violent interference, either directly, or,through its proxies, in Lebanon, Gaza. Iraq and certain Gulf states. Its influence is thus feared within the Arab World. A nuclear armed Iran would be able to flex its muscles with greater vigour, and could enhance its ability to crush external opposition with the same brutal efficiency that it has crushed internal opposition.
Posted by Bempec, Thursday, 17 November 2011 8:01:21 AM
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The IAEA report has crossed the line of factual unbiased reporting I don't accept that Iran is doing anything wrong in seeking to develop nuclear power for peaceful purposes and even enrich uranium considering they are surrounded by Pakistan,India and Israel, all of whom have Nuclear Power and unlike Iran ,are not parties to the Non Proliferation Treaty.What more does Israel's paranoid leadership want ? As for the comment on wiping Israel off the map, if Israel continue to persecute Palestinians and oppose peaceful solutions to settlement, they are provoking such comment.
There is no doubt, Israel would dearly love to attack Iran and foolishly might do so if the US does not rein them in.
Posted by maracas1, Thursday, 17 November 2011 11:51:53 AM
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Maracas 1, I do not follow your logic. You state that Iran is "surrounded" by Pakistan, India and Israel. Since when have Pakistan and India made any threats against Iran? If anything, these countries would more likely support Iran against an Israeli threat.
You claim also, that by the Israeli denial of rights to Palestinians, Israel is provoking Iranian comments such as "wiping Israel of the map".
Do you actually support such threats of genocide by Iran? Would you also justify genocidal threats against Sri Lanka because of their treatment of the Tamils, or China because of their denial of human rights to the Tibetans?
Posted by Bempec, Thursday, 17 November 2011 4:06:37 PM
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Good article.
I don't know what all the fuss is about to be honest. If Iran does in fact want a nuclear bomb it is for a very good reason. Israel and the US continually threaten to attack it. Imagine if we were to read in the papers about how the the president of Indonesia was was trying to convince his cabinet to support an attack on Australia (like we read about Netanyahu this week), and China continually stated "all options are on the table". I think we too would want the bomb.
Having the bomb means no-one can attack you. I would certainly trust the Iranians more with nuclear weapons than I would the Indians, Pakistanis or Israelis. The Iranians have never waged war on their neighbours except in self defence.
I get very tired of the "wipe Israel off the map" business. That was a mistranslation and Ahmadinejad has repeatedly asserted that the solution to the Palestinian/Israel conflict needs to be by way of referendum. That is a far cry from threatening war.
Posted by Rhys Jones, Thursday, 17 November 2011 4:14:18 PM
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Rhys

Couldn't agree more. Bet Saddam wished he had the bomb (incidentally - didn't the IAEA say he had one?)

Unfortunately, Iran is probably not developing a bomb but really does want it for peaceful purposes. It's a shame because a bomb would ensure peace in the ME. Israel has shown time and time again that it will not make peace until it has to. A nuclear Iran would ensure peace for generations to come.
Posted by dane, Thursday, 17 November 2011 4:42:56 PM
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Dane,
I agree that an Iranian bomb would probably make the middle east safer. If it wasn't for the nuclear arms of the US and USSR then there would almost certainly have been a sequel to WWII. No nuclear armed nation has ever faced invasion. As much as the threat of nuclear war is a terrible thing to live under, it is certainly an effective deterrent to actual war. Better still would be a world where we no longer settled our differences by killing each other. Unfortunately, we don't seem to have reached that level of maturity yet, and we in the west (despite our claims of being peace loving) are the worst offenders.
Posted by Rhys Jones, Thursday, 17 November 2011 5:47:53 PM
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Israel has 300 nuclear weapons and the means to deliver them.Israel is practising genocide on the Palistinians.Iran has yet to develop one nuke.The USA and NATO have invaded 6 countries.How many has Iran invaded? It is all about oil and expansion of Western Imperialism.How many countries has China invaded?

Even Zbigniew Brzezinski says that invading Iran will be a disaster.Invade Iran and expect WW3.
Posted by Arjay, Thursday, 17 November 2011 6:33:06 PM
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Firstly its interesting the author who has been or still is funded by the Iranian Government is free to present the Iranian line in democratic America. A scholar would be tortured, imprisoned and perhaps hung if he presented the US-Western line in Iran.

Secondly one wonders why Iran has produced a whole generation of Shahab Intermediate Range Ballistic Missiles whose range has been extended to encompass Israel. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shahab-3 and http://www.missilethreat.com/missilesoftheworld/id.190/missile_detail.asp.

Iran's Shahab 3 Missile are so inaccurate that they are only effective against cities (defenceless civilians) not military targets. The lack of accuracy of Iran's long range missiles also increases the likelihood that they are, or will be, armed with unconventional warheads.

"Unconventional" means:

- radiological - spreading highly radioactive particles by conventional explosion over a wide area,

- biological (germ warfare) eg. anthrax

- chemical warheads - eg. nerve gas, and /or

- nuclear.

The peaceful picture of Iran that this Iranian author paints is at variance with Iran's routine torture and killing of peaceful protesters.
Posted by plantagenet, Friday, 18 November 2011 3:56:05 PM
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Plantagenet you are spot on!
Check out this comprehensive list on the website

http://www.iranhumanrights.org/
Posted by Bempec, Friday, 18 November 2011 4:41:42 PM
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Thanks Bempec

Here's more about life and the prospectt of religious execution in Iran, from Human Rights Watch http://www.hrw.org/news/2011/09/30/iran-christian-pastor-faces-execution-apostasy :

Iran: Christian Pastor Faces Execution for ‘Apostasy’

September 30, 2011

"Iranian authorities should immediately free pastor Yousef Nadarkhani and drop all charges against him, Human Rights Watch said today. Nadarkhani, who has been charged with apostasy and is in Rasht prison in northern Iran, faces possible execution.

Iran’s judiciary claims that Nadarkhani, 33, who was born to a Muslim family, is an apostate due to his adoption of Christianity at age 19. Authorities summoned him to an appeals court on September 25, 2011, said his lawyer, Mohammad Ali Dadkhah. Court officials told him that he had three opportunities to renounce his faith and embrace Islam.

"...Security forces initially arrested Nadarkhani in October 2009. In November 2010, a lower court sentenced Nadarkhani to death for “apostasy from Islam,” despite the fact that no such crime exists under Iran’s penal code...."

And the torture and killing goes on in Iran. "Honour" killing of women is usually considered justifiable homicide - so court penalties for the killers (who are almost always male) are avoided...
Posted by plantagenet, Saturday, 19 November 2011 10:19:26 AM
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How can you justify a nuclear weapon in the hands of an idiot. Some-one that says Israel should be enialated. Can you live under that sort of garble. I think we are best living with Arabia, rather than Iran.
Posted by 579, Saturday, 19 November 2011 1:21:16 PM
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What on earth does Iran's human rights record have to do with nuclear Weapons? It would be like saying that the US can't be trusted with nuclear weapons because it imprisons more of its own people than any other country in the world. The two issues are completely separate.
The reason Iran needs missiles that can reach Israel is because Israel constantly threatens to attack it. They need such missiles to act as a deterrent. The missiles may well be inaccurate but this does not detract from their ability to act as a deterrent. I'm sure they would prefer more accurate and advanced weapons, but unfortunately due to sanctions they are unable to purchase these. They were even prevented from purchasing the purely defensive s300 Russian anti aircraft system.
Does Israel have missiles that can reach Iran? Does the US have missiles that can reach Iran? Why should they have a monopoly on these kind of weapons? Its certainly not because they have shown great restraint in using them.
The fact is that Iran does not have any history of attacking its neighbours. The fact that Iranians do not share elements of our culture are completely irrelevant. Just more distortions to try to justify attacks on people that have not attacked us.
Posted by Rhys Jones, Saturday, 19 November 2011 1:58:33 PM
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There's enough in the world as it is. If Iran was not a deviate it would not be under threat, the world needs Iran, it has oil. It does not need an atomic bomb. Israel is said to have the bomb, but there is no need to use it, if it wern't for the ramblings coming out of Iran. Iran is a radical state.
Posted by 579, Saturday, 19 November 2011 2:26:39 PM
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The USA ,NATO and its bankster backers have us headed for nuclear confrontation.That is the reality.

Glowing in the dark might be trendy for a short while, but I promise you,it has no future.
Posted by Arjay, Saturday, 19 November 2011 6:39:06 PM
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Bigger problems than merely Iran on the horizon. The IAEA Commission is backed by the major players in the Nuclear Pantheon, whether you regard them as capable of working out facts is irrelevant.

Iran sponsors religious fanatics that think strapping a bomb to themselves and detonating it in the middle of a crowded market/cafe/nightclub/etc. is a legitimate way to wage war. It is not, they have quite deliberately set out to antagonize others in the region, thinking that the status quo could be upset without serious consequences. Newsflash, it cannot and nobody is going to accept the potential for nuclear armed suicidal nutters. That is a zero sum game, there can be no winners, just those who lose and those who lose significantly more. Mutually assured destruction and suicide bombers really don't mix.

What is interesting is how the supports for Iran are being removed, rapidly. China has long been supplying Iran through North Korean proxies. Then the SE Asian region, with South Korea, Japan, the Philippines, Malaysia, Indonesia, Brunei, Vietnam, Korea, (and the Commonwealth) etc. building a bloc to challenge China. Meanwhile India, the Commonwealth and the USA are starting to work together to challenge China in South Asia? China threw her weight around way too hard, without regard for what would happen if the rest of the region(s) banded together.

Learn to sit back, watch what is going on and relate it to what is happening overall. China has overplayed its hand, as have her allies (Pakistan, North Korea and Iran). China is now being surrounded with Nuclear capable Blocs that can match her for size and weapons (it will be very interesting to see if Russia takes advantage of that). It is pretty much how the Americans de-fanged the USSR, arming NATO and fighting brushfire wars. But this is the cost of proliferation (also the reason for the incredible arms race in both the South-Eastern (China Sea/West Pacific) & Southern Asian (Indian Ocean) regions).
Posted by Custard, Saturday, 19 November 2011 8:10:20 PM
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