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Climate refugees : Comments

By Mike Pope, published 15/11/2011

It's not if but when climate change refugees arrive, so we need to decide how to deal with them.

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'Climate refugees are those who are confronted with conditions which make life unsustainable in their homeland because of the effects of climate. These effects include inundation and erosion, loss of fresh water and lack of affordable food due to sea level rise, ocean pollution including acidification, OVER-FISHING and climate change caused by global warming.'

I stooped reading the article when I read this. After I'd stopped laughing at this stupidity I wrote this.

I'm going back to read the rest in case there is more mirth to be gained.
Posted by imajulianutter, Tuesday, 15 November 2011 7:04:09 PM
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it's illegal under international law to limit birthrates and replace one population with another, it's called genocide.
Jay,
in that case it should also be illegal to help people who don't help themselves. I'm not talking about people who can't help themselves. It should be illegal to take from one 7 give to the other without consent as is Government;s practise with our taxes.
Is it still genocide if people can't sustain their high breeding rates ?
Posted by individual, Tuesday, 15 November 2011 7:24:40 PM
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Here's another head scratcher.
Due to the effects of climate change and rising sea levels the Dutch began their system of Dikes and Polders around 1,000 years ago.
I read the Wiki on it and the works are an incredible feat of engineering, the more modern dikes were made of stone which had to be imported from other countries.

So where are the dikes in Bangaldesh, Kiribati, Kerala and other low lying areas of the world?
Don't Bangladeshis understand their environment, even after their thousands of years living there, or is it that they are too stupid, lazy or selfish to work together for their own protection?
Most Bangaldeshis we're told make about a dollar a day, so instead of wasting money on processing and housing refugees why not use that cash to pay Bangaldeshis five dollars a day to drag silt from the delta and raise the land levels in vulnerable areas?
Win/Win no?
They'll do it if you pay them and supervise the work, otherwise they'll just sit and stare stupefied as the next storm or king tide bears down and carries off their livelihood, or worse, their family.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Tuesday, 15 November 2011 7:37:13 PM
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Jay

It's not a matter of stupidity, laziness or selfishness. It is a case of cultural difference.

Westerners have a culture formed from both semitic thought and Greek reason and logic. That mix has produced an outlook that holds while some things are outside of our control, many things can be manipulated by reason and logic to benefit us.

That is a basic of our civilisation.

Bangladesh draws it's historical roots to the semitic language groups of the mid east. Broadly these are based in the historical theological and irrational patterns of Islam, Judaism and, to a much lesser influence, pre reformation and enlightenment Christainity. And of course one of the common tenets of these are pre-destination, which results in a belief in having little control over your circumstances and eventual salvation/damnation.
Posted by imajulianutter, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 9:13:56 AM
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Semitic as in Islam right?
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 12:30:13 PM
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Imajulianutter,

Well, no, actually Bangla is an Indo-Iranian language, i.e. related to Hindi and Sanskrit and so to most European languages. What was your point ?

Cheers,

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 12:55:03 PM
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