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Rethinking the White Australia Policy : Comments

By Andrew Fraser, published 28/9/2005

Andrew Fraser calls for the re-establishment of the White Australia Policy on racial groundsv.

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So Matt, what then is the percetage of those who are say from places such as Romania, France, etc whom many of which are considered to be white anyway? I assume that they fit in with the mix of non-anglo's that you discussed in an earlier thread
Posted by scooper9, Thursday, 6 October 2005 3:29:27 PM
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It isn't entirely clear what your selection of statistics is designed to prove Matthew S., but let me try and help you out a little.

This is an exact quote from the official Australian Bureau of Statistics web site:

Ancestry

Applicable to all persons (excluding overseas visitors)

In the 2001 Census, the three most common ancestries identified with were:

Australian: 6,739,594 people (35.9%),
English: 6,358,880 people (33.9%) and;
Irish: 1,919,727 people (10.2%).

Here's the URL if you would like to check it for yourself:

http://tinyurl.com/dh5wb

What has not been asked for, of course, is that the "Australian" contingent goes far enough back into the past to identify a "source ancestry". So what you have is a volunteered and non-specific answer, that gives you absolutely no statistical ammunition whatsoever. This category could, for all you or I know, consist entirely of fifth-generation Chinese.

The 2001 census counted 18,972,350 people in total, so it is wrong to divide your result into "20 million".

Now, what was the point you were making from all this?
Posted by Pericles, Thursday, 6 October 2005 3:44:53 PM
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To Mr Mahatma Sitting Duck.

I figured that you were going to go down this route, and that is why I never initially bothered to reply to your open questions that were directed at anybody who would answer them.

The three principle races I named were straight out of the Collins dictionary. So if you have a problem with any of the Collins definitions of the word “race”, please take them up with Collins Publishers, Sydney. Please also note that most people would consider your position, which is based entirely upon the premise that only one race exists, to be worthy more of mirth than serious consideration.

I will remind you once again that there are two premises here which are mutually exclusive. I claim that the differing races appear to have not only different physical characteristics, but also different physical and intellectual skills. You claim that every race and every sub group of races is genetically identical in every way, except for physical characteristics.

I am prepared to argue my premise on it’s merits. But you choose to slither away from justifying your own view. The best that you can do is top tell me to read an anthropology book. It’s exactly what I thought all along. You trendy lefties are all just fakes pretending to be intellectually superior to everybody else. Your pose is nothing more than a fashion statement which indicates your coveted social aspirations.

Hey Sitting Duck! I thought you were going to instruct me in the error of my racist ways? Is this the best that you can do? I think that you may be a bit out of your depth arguing against rednecks. But please keep it up. There are apparently many young who need to be deprogrammed from the anti Australian nonsense being drummed into their heads by the long haired men and short haired women of to day’s Teachers Associations.

You can provide a great service to me by displaying to them how intellectually challenged and intellectually dishonest are the people who hold your particular viewpoint.
Posted by redneck, Thursday, 6 October 2005 6:40:12 PM
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Ummm... redneck, I just tried to engage with your arguments on exactly their merits... You didn't even try to outline your schema of the distinguishing intellectual, physical and temperamental characteristics of the three 'races' that you nominated.

Tip: if you want to appeal to textual sources in a debate about complex sociocultural phenomena, you can do better than the Collins Dictionary. But that's only if you want to be credible.
Posted by mahatma duck, Thursday, 6 October 2005 9:18:16 PM
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Wemahatma duck, Well it seems that educating oneself about racism and talking to knowledgeable people from all walks of life - as well as exposing oneself to the diverse cultural world around us - and then reflecting deeply on this - was all for nothing. All we needed was a Collins dictionary, Allan Jones, some good old sensationist newspaper stories and a gutless personality. I’ve been cheated! (not)
Posted by Rainier, Thursday, 6 October 2005 9:55:32 PM
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Matthew s makes some good points.In France North African Muslims less than 5% of the general pop yet represnt 50% of the gaol pop.The PC brigade will not let the figures for Aust be released and are trying their best to stop the description of criminals according to race be broardcast over the media.Now describing someone as Anglo,Asian or Middle Eastern is discriminatory because a particular group gets mentioned on a daily basis in relation to crime and makes up only 1.5% of our pop.How about we argue specific facts?Now Rainer and Ducky stop picking on Redneck and have ago at me.
Posted by Arjay, Thursday, 6 October 2005 11:18:23 PM
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