attention all closet communists/atheists or scoffers, it is a well documented, scientifically proven fact that everything in the article & book it is based on is totally correct.

Both Galileo & Darwin were christians. Slavery was abolished by another PROTESTANT christian, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Wilberforce NOT marx, engels, lenin, mao, marcuse or any of the other murderers & corporate paedophiles.

The only omition in the book is that http://books.google.com.au/books?id=b35QNB-c1TIC&dq=gutenberg+revolution&hl=en&ei=3rqPTtTdO6WemQWz1oQs&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CDoQ6AEwAA the modern printing press was the catalyst which "kick started" the PROTESTANT christian revolution that "enlightened" & democratised the first world.

The universal truths, philosophies & principles of christianity, always were in the bible, the printing press made them more widely available to "proletariat" christians who were emancipated, or "set free" by truth & evolved into PROTESTANT christians.

"the truth, the whole truth & nothing but the truth" is always the exact opposite of everything the completely, totally, utterly, evil, devil worshipping, loony left wing politicians think, say & do.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frederick_Engels was in the same masonic lodge as this guy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Weishaupt who REALLY wrote the original manifesto as a "counter revolutionary" scheme to try & stop PROTESTANT christianity from democratising the world. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Marx & engels only updated the rhetoric, as http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Hawker does today.

Are we "moving forwards" yet?

Formersnag,

"Are we "moving forwards" yet?"

No, we're far to busy rolling about on the floor, wracked with uncontrollable mirth at the absurd rants of crazy people.

PS:
Thanks. Up until a few minutes ago I'd been having a pretty bad day, but now I'll probably still be giggling come lunch-time tomorrow.

Ummmm... Formersnag, hello?

I think you may have provided, with that one post, substantial ammunition for those who suspect that the bible has a corrupting effect on the minds of a susceptible portion of our population.

May I suggest that you quit before you do too much more damage to the reputation of Christianity.

Pericles,

I know far too many sane Christians (a lot of my friends and family) to tar all Christians with the same brush as the nutcases. The reputation of Christianity is quite safe; although the reputation of the nutters has become somewhat more laughable.

That "without the Judeo-Christian worldview, there would be no Western civilisation as we know it" is undoubtedly true.

But critical to understanding our culture is that it arose out of rebellion against "priest and king" and is radically antichristian and anti the biblical worldview. You cannot just look at what is influenced by that worldview in a positive way. You also have to consider those aspects of modernism that are totally opposed to it.

Failure to do that has led people like Bill Muehlenberg to link Christianity with worldly (I use the word in the biblical sense) right wing politics which has policies that are all too often the enemy of the truth and justice that the biblical worldview espouses. From a Christian point of view, there is little of significant difference between the extremes of right and left politics.

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=12709#219637
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=12709#219665
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=12709#219673

TAR & Pericles, please dont believe me, read the history books, do the research yourself.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8630135369495797236#

http://www.academia.org/the-origins-of-political-correctness/

these 2 are a little hint or taste of truth to start you on your way.

http://isohunt.com/torrent_details/133691601/?tab=summary free PDF download of a great "follow the money" book about how evil "capitalists" plan to continue oppressing the proletariat, by training fools like you to oppress yourselves.

Ever since 1972 Comrades Whitlam, Hawke, Keating, Krudd & Dillard have been killing Australian Small & Medium business in favour of an ever reducing number of multi national, mega corporations or Coca Cola Communazism.

Please explain?