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The trial of Generals Ante Gotovina and Mladen Markac : a farce from beginning to end. : Comments
By Mishka Góra, published 28/9/2011Decisions of the International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia undermine the integrity of UN processes.
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Posted by Mishka Gora, Wednesday, 28 September 2011 11:07:22 AM
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Jay of Melbourne
Thanks for the link to that simple and cogently argued article. So much writing on the breakup of Yugoslavia (including this article) is usually so bogged down in excessive detail, it's often unreadable. I also recommend the writings of Diana Johnstone and Edward S Hermann who have both done some excellent debunking of the reprehensible and one-sided NATO propaganda campaign that demonised Serbia and whitewashed the Kosavar Albanian KLA, and which remains the standard trope on the Balkan conflict to this day. Sadly, the same trope is being trotted out re Libya. According to NATO propaganda, Libyans have lived under 'forty years of dictatorship'. This is NATO code for a political system that was debt-free, provided free health and education to all, enjoyed the highest status for women and highest standard of living in Africa and most of the ME, a nationalised banking system that provided no-interest loans and heavily subsidised housing, and a leadership role in a fast-emerging pan-African independence (which is now all but dead). Now Libyans are being 'liberated', which is NATO code for the violent and bloody neo-liberal restructuring to a privatised economy and banking system, user-pays health and education that only the well-off will afford, the siphoning of oil revenues to outside corportations, the dismantling of women's rights and almost certain imposition of 'modest' Islamic dress, and a puppet government held in place by a corrupt psuedo-election process and kowtowing to pro-Western foreign policy. Posted by Killarney, Wednesday, 28 September 2011 4:59:29 PM
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'6,186 victims at Srebrenica have been positively identified using DNA testing and it is antcipated 8,100 will be identified by the end of the forensic investigation.'
That may well be true. However, the ICMP who handled all the DNA testing of Srebrenica remains is stacked (over 90%) with Bosnians and the rest are pro-Bosnian American or British – not a single Serb. Its methodology is highly secretive (supposedly out of ‘respect for the victims’ families’). Despite repeated requests, the ICMP has refused to publish the names of those identified or to allow its DNA evidence in court (again, supposedly out of ‘respect for the victims' families’). Significantly, the ICMP identification process does not include the nature of death – i.e. it makes no distinction between those who died from execution, the several days of combat before the town fell (with no help from the UN who just stood by and watched), or the months of intolerable living conditions in Srebrenica that caused many deaths from disease and starvation etc prior to its fall . More on this analysis can be found at: http://serbianna.com/analysis/archives/938 Posted by Killarney, Wednesday, 28 September 2011 5:57:57 PM
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Killarney,
Another article of relevance to this topic, this demostrates the "template" for NATO action: "Destroying a Country's Standard of Living: What Libya Had Achieved, What has been Destroyed by Prof. Michel Chossudovsky" http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=26686 Keith Preston, one of my favorite bloggers has the phrase, "We're all Iraqis now" on the banner of his site, that sums up a lot of what's going down at the moment. NATO, the U.N, the "NWO", (call it what you will) is hurting us all,the goal is global hegemony, they don't care if you're Black or White, Jewish or Muslim, Gay or Straight, they're your best pals one day then when you're no longer useful or you start to make trouble for them they crush you. Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Wednesday, 28 September 2011 6:09:02 PM
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@ Jay, Killarney, and Savvas:
Palestine, Libya, Kosovo - talk about avoiding the subject! If you're going to criticise, at least stay on the topic! As for the absurd comments about Srebrenica, do you seriously expect to have Serbs on the ICMP investigations? That would be like having the Japanese investigate the Burma Railway straight after WWII. And what about the testimony of Serbs about Srebrenica?! I'm the first to admit that things are rarely black and white, but the response of you guys pretty much proves the point about Serb paranoia and propaganda. And God forbid that anyone should provide "excessive detail", like evidence, to confuse you.... Posted by Lindy, Wednesday, 28 September 2011 7:01:09 PM
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Lindy,
There's no excessive detail to be found, that's the problem, as always the NATO story is full of holes. It's also a fundamental point of Western jurisprudence that one cannot sit in judgement of one's own case, though since Nuremberg this has pretty much been abandoned.Human rights tribunals always convict, that's what they're set up to do, the trip to the Hague is a one way ticket. Should Eichmann have been subjected to a show trial in Israel, should the Japanese tried and executed by Australia after the war been so condemned, should Saddam Hussein have been sent to the Hague instead of lynched by his political opponents? Srebrenica, Halabja, Manhattan 9-11, Auschwitz, and all the other atrocities of recent times all have big question marks over them, as they should. The very idea of an "official story" or an official version of history is offensive, it insults our intelligence. I read a lot, I try to find both sides of every hot button issue and draw my own conclusions, praise the internet! Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Wednesday, 28 September 2011 7:56:26 PM
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I really don't see what Palestine has to do with this. Perhaps I'll write another article on that topic another day! Kosovo isn't very relevant either, given that I didn't mention it in my article either. But I would remind you that Kosovo was semi-autonomous prior to its war, and that prior to Operation Storm the Serbs were offered elections for local self-government in the presence of international observers... but Milosevic ordered the Serbs to leave the Krajina rather than remain in the Croatian Republic.