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Greens - the most public secret for forty years : Comments

By Scott Ludlam, published 2/9/2011

'Overnight success' takes a lot of time and hard work.

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Why is it IT experts and industry love the NBN? Is it a bizarre conspiracy between academic, commerce and 'the Left'?

http://nbnmyths.wordpress.com/what-do-the-experts-say/
Posted by Jack Tower, Friday, 2 September 2011 5:19:54 PM
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Given the massive size of the NBN project, why did the Government not act responsibly and do a cost-benefit analysis? Because it would have spoilt a good story. Such an analysis would have shown that the costs, even though they are understated, would have far exceeded the benefits.

The NBN project has had to be given monopoly protection, so as to guarantee a captive market for its output. Instead of being faced with downward-trending broadband wholesale prices as the NBN project expands, Commerce will be forced to bear higher telecommunications costs which will result in significantly lower productivity than under competition.

Given the 'new' IR rules, the unions with members working on NBN construction can be expected to press for and gain substantial wage rises.

Furthermore, the record of the Rudd and Gillard Governments is such that they cannot be trusted to achieve the nominated cost and other target outcomes on any project they undertake, let alone the NBN project.

Hardly optimism-inspiring!
Posted by Raycom, Sunday, 4 September 2011 11:41:34 PM
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Spin, spin, spin! The Greens had the balance of power in the WA upper house of Parliament for several years and I can't remember one single achievement that they can legitimately claim credit for during that time. And, with apologies to long-term OLO readers who've heard this story before, while Dee Margetts was a Greens senator at the time when Howard was after just one more vote to get his GST package through the senate, she treated with absolute distain my suggestion that she vote for the GST legislation on condition that it contained many green initiatives such as solar hot water systems and low fuel-consuming motor vehicles being GST free.
The Greens aren't green - they use the environment to hide their anti-capitalist, anti-development, anti-Indigenous, anti-people agenda.
Posted by Bernie Masters, Monday, 5 September 2011 10:55:07 AM
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http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=12557#217130

Spot on Bernie, they were organised by Socialist forum in the mid 1980's, the NDP at the "1984" election was a test run.

After that, roughly half of Socialist Forum/rent a crowd said "we are not RED, we are green", the other half said, "we are not communists, we are democratic socialists", joined the Loony Left Factions of the ALP, took over & that is where Juliar came from.
Posted by Formersnag, Monday, 5 September 2011 3:31:15 PM
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The alarming void in media analysis of the Greens' policies at a time when they have been gaining in political strength, has led to the timely release of the book , "The Greens: Policies, Realities and Consequences", published by Connor Court in July 2011, and edited by Andrew McIntyre with contributions from Australian leading experts who look at a wide range of their policies in detail to reveal the practical consequences of these policies.
Posted by Raycom, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 11:25:01 AM
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I rather liked this observation, from the book's launch in Shepparton:

"The findings of these experts lead one to understand that the Greens have an uncontrollable urge to spend and tax, almost everywhere and for everything; a mania for control – through legislation and regulation of both institutions and individuals; a disturbing and unwarranted confidence in central planning and belief that government knows best; an antagonism to initiatives by the private sector or individuals; and at best, a systematic and naïve understanding, both historically and practically, of how the world works."

They are admittedly views that coincide with my own. But I'm willing to be persuaded otherwise.
Posted by Pericles, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 2:15:31 PM
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