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The case for re-naming the human race : Comments
By Julian Cribb, published 22/8/2011It is time the human race had a new name. The old one fails to reflect our wisdom when it comes to the environment.
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Posted by Formersnag, Wednesday, 24 August 2011 12:30:27 PM
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Sam
The hypothesis that anthropogenic CO2 emissions cause dangerous global warming has not been proved by scientific evidence. No one, not even the 'mighty' IPCC, has been able to demonstrate or measure a dangerous human-caused climate change. Posted by Raycom, Wednesday, 24 August 2011 1:17:49 PM
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Poirot, its fairly easy to sit on the sidelines and pass smartarsed
comments about India, using the latest NASA information. I remind you however that your website pointed out, that underground water levels are dropping around the world. Years ago I traded with India, trying to sell some of their products in Europe. In the end I walked away shaking my head, far more aware as to why they lived in poverty. Now the Australian public service might be bad, with public servants feathering their own nests to ensure a contented and well paid lifestyle. That is for just 20 million. Multiply that 50 fold to reflect the Indian population, pay them poorly and what you really have is complete disorganised chaos. Everyone had their hand out, wanting payment to get anything done, that was simply part of the system. But the place was simply too large to organise anything efficiently. It made my point for me, that smaller democracies have a far better chance of progress then large ones. So you have the easiest job of all, simply passing smartarsed comments. Actually changing anything in a country of one billion, is easier said then done. You would be naive to believe that all those public servants go to work for the best interests of the country, rather then their own little patch of self interest. Posted by Yabby, Wednesday, 24 August 2011 2:39:29 PM
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Yabby,
What's smartarsed about telling something like it is? Here it is again: "A falling water table across the northern Indian subcontinent comes as no great surprise. The GRACE region of sharp depletion coincides with the world's most intensely irrigated land. Fifty percent to more than 75% of the land is equipped for irrigation with pumped groundwater or reservoir water..." http://news.sciencemag.org/sciencenow/2009/08/10-01.html Unsustainable.... Posted by Poirot, Wednesday, 24 August 2011 3:33:32 PM
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Yabby,
You're quick to dismiss groundwater depletion in the NASA piece because it is happening in other parts of the world besides India - like China and the U.S. and elsewhere. Here's a bit more info on aquifer depletion in India other places where overpumping is rife. http://www.eoearth.org/article/Aquifer_depletion Posted by Poirot, Wednesday, 24 August 2011 4:00:06 PM
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Many who post on OLO find facts difficult. For those I suggest Homo nihil facto.
For example, the Artesian Basin: "The accepted view of the Great Artesian Basin (in all govt. papers, and taught in schools and universities) is that it is an open system that is regularly topped up by rainfall on the highlands around its perimeter, particularly on the slopes of the Great Dividing Range to the East. The govt. geologists claim that the Basin’s tremendous sandstone strata reach the surface in these intake zones and surface water can readily percolate down into the porous rock from where it begins its long journey beneath the Western Plains. However, this is deceptive and misleading. In the government’s most recent report from the Bureau of Rural Sciences (Habermehl et al 2009), it states “recharge rates range from 0.5mm to 10mm (millimeters) per year, with a maximum of approximately 40mm per year.” How could this water, travelling at that rate, possibly recharge the Basin (which is 3000 metres deep in places) in less than many millions of years? Another paper (Love et al 2000) claims that by using Cl dating methods, recharge in south-west of the GAB is between 0.08 and 0.24 mm (millimetres) per year, and flow velocity is 0.24 m per year. To quote the DWE’s Water Sharing Plan document: “Water flow through the sandstone is extremely slow, it is estimated that the time taken for water to travel from the recharge areas to the western parts of the GAB can be up to two million years”. And this is the best case scenario – the other scenario is worse. Cont'd Posted by Ammonite, Wednesday, 24 August 2011 4:33:49 PM
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popnperish, #1, the fauxMANistas have been using much more intemperate language against men, without any provocation, for decades.
#2, Ditto for everybody "on the loony left" against anybody who is not a good little communist.
#3, if have seen any of my comments at all you will see that my use of words against communism & its supporters is equal to both genders.
#4, you would also see that i have been equally derogatory towards corrupt right wingers, who are equally a problem.
i am a centrist moderate after all.
BTW, did you try any of the links i gave you some of them are really funny.
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=12495#216169
GrahamY, my understanding of the artesian basin is that it is replenished by rain falling on the mountain ranges & there are also underground outflows to the sea.
i have seen bores pouring out 400,000 gallons daily for more than half a century, including one which was diverted into a limestone cave for 6 months which never filled, the water just drained away, presumably back to where it came from.