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National Marriage Day & the UK riots : Comments

By Warwick Marsh, published 16/8/2011

The destruction of marriage and the natural family is leading to social dysfunction and youth crime, can what happened in the UK occur here?

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John J
"Sweden? Norway, Denmark, Finland, Germany, France? Canada? Australia"

How many single parent families in those countries are supported or held up by taxpayer funding?

When the taxpayer funding is not there, complete social dsyfunction.

In the UK, about 50% of children are now born outside of marriage, which is only a short step away from single parent families and child poverty.

And of course, the child povert rates in the UK are now some of the highest in OECD countries.

The feminist dream of children being raised by the mother and the state is collapsing, and will continue to collapse as more countries go into debt.
Posted by vanna, Wednesday, 17 August 2011 7:17:30 AM
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"John J
"Sweden? Norway, Denmark, Finland, Germany, France? Canada? Australia"

How many single parent families in those countries are supported or held up by taxpayer funding?

When the taxpayer funding is not there, complete social dsyfunction."

Sorry, I didn't realise that YOU got to define what constitutes social dysfunction.

So firing bullets and missiles at dissenters, as they do in highly-religious Syria and Libya -- no single parents there, except the ones who have been bereaved by government killings! -- is merely fun and games: nothing like as bad as, say, shoplifting?
Posted by Jon J, Wednesday, 17 August 2011 7:33:02 AM
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Now it is just getting irrational.

"The feminist dream of children being raised by the mother and the state is collapsing, and will continue to collapse as more countries go into debt."

Now I have heard it all. Must have missed the bit about the feminist dream in Feminism 101.
Posted by pelican, Wednesday, 17 August 2011 8:53:02 AM
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Related to Feminism 101, an observation about the social conditioning contribution of Penny Wong Wong, Sophie Allouaches and Sophie’s pregnancy: Penny & Sophie cannot escape the fact that they must set aside the very nature of their orientation in order to bring children into their relationship. Their lifestyle choices do not automatically become a new ‘normal’ nurture function just because it is the 21st Century. I respectfully submit that to the extent that GLBT relationships are now considered valid and worthy of protection from discrimination in Australia, they are still by very design one-generation arrangements that are inherently incompatible for the propagation of robust future generations of society.

And my rationale for this view? It is interesting to observe that in a number of respects western society is moving towards what is considered ‘progressive’ practices that are also identifiably ‘back to nature’. Examples include: the environmental movement, conservationism, low carbon footprints/emissions, eco-friendliness, organic food, herbal medicine and ergonomic ‘everything’. However, in human relationships we are now encouraged to accept as equal in value all manner of man-made (ie synthetic, arbitrary, even reproductively impotent) lifestyle choices that if globally adopted by any single species in any ecosystem you care to look at, would cause that entire species to become extinct in a generation.

To the extent that western society departs from those traditional values that do contribute to a strong and robust societal legacy, it is dying the death of a thousand cuts.
Posted by Brian2520, Wednesday, 17 August 2011 10:07:18 AM
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You know, you could probably compare the religiousness, the divorce/marriage culture, and number of riots between Australia, America, UK, and many mainland European countries, and you will find not a single consistent statistic.

What you will find even less of is any link to suggest that Cronulla was simply the result of 'single parent' households.

Do tell- how does that work again?
I mean, an actual step-by-step segue from being raised by only one parent instead of two, that leads to moral decay, that leads to motivation to violent protest participation?
What do you think motivates other protests and riots- or the people who organized protests that later degenerate into riots?

To me it sounds like something to conveniently blame a system you don't like without having to analyze the hard issues.
Posted by King Hazza, Wednesday, 17 August 2011 10:36:57 AM
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The process of the effect of widespread fatherlessness was explained in the article:

English MP David Lammy commented:

"There is none of the basic starting presumption of two adults who want to start a family, raise children together, love them, nourish them and lead them to full independence. The parents are not married and the child has come, frankly, out of casual sex; the father is not present, and is not expected to be. There are not the networks of extended families to make up for it. We are seeing huge consequences of the lack of male role models in young
men's lives. . ."

Social commentator Niamh Ui Bhriain in her article Why is London Burning says:

"The decline of marriage has left a significant proportion of children with a confused understanding of stability and of boundaries. And the lack of male role model means that young men in particular seek out the toughest in the gang for an authority figure rather than their father. That means just one bad apple can influence a whole community of young teens.
Posted by Brian2520, Wednesday, 17 August 2011 11:50:26 AM
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