Nation Building is about IMMIGRATING in a way that creates a sub-paid or slave class out of unsponsored immigrants and slow or weak National citizens and taxpayers. As the sub-creatures will be cocooned to the NBN they won't (theoretically anyway) get wise to the situation and cause trouble.

Nation Building and its Immigration basis has social and economic COSTS that are calculated to be externalised to the community, not businesses or political players. This to make the politicians and CEOs LOOK GOOD. More importantly to attract princely remunerations... like holidays in Tuscany while riots are brewing.

Nation building is about stealing the best brains and talent from poor nations and justifying that with a faked up family/humanitarian intake. All the weak minds, drop outs or failures are confined to the 'net' and when they revolt they are pushed out of the system via gaol, drugs or suicide. Much to the delight of politicians who ride the situation in shin'ed armour like a Harley Davidson.

This has been going on since Rome and NEVER has the SECRECY surrounding it been tighter than it is today. Especially in so called "benign" and democratic nations such as Australia, Britain and the US.

So when you go to hospital Emergency and the nurse keeps calling Mustafa's and other foreign names while you sit thinking you could be dying, Just think - its all for a bigger more powerful NATION.

YEAH RIGHT!

And remember WE have a moral imperative to look after queue jumping, official bribing immigrants above the costs and cares of taxpaying Australians. This is an imperative that brooks no opinion polling and is a mandate of all elected Australian Governments: To treat foreigners-with-potential better than those who voted for you and make those voters pay for this till it hurts.

That way they will slowly realise just who'd the BOSS

I think the rioters are "smelling" their exploitation by the system, even if they are not identifying that its foundations are in the theft of their BIRTHright to land and their consequent subservience to the business model.

"I think the rioters are "smelling" their exploitation by the system"

That's an interesting comment, but I do feel these folk once the opportunity arose, or an excuse existed, were rat fast to exploit the system.

Clearly they felt immune to retribution for some reason (?) but much to their horror now, the system is nailing them to the wall.

They took a risk it didn't work out, sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't.

I feel no sympathy for the ones who now whine about losing their jobs, or taxpayer funded homes or other privilege.

Many did not seem to be protestors who had lost a birthright, they are at the bottom because they don't work hard at the right things to be successful, then become resentful - to excuse them and find reasons why they should be allowed to dodge responsibility and accountability is to embolden more of the same.

I'm the child of immigrants from northern Europe, and my parents never bleated about their birthright or land in the old country .. that's just such a fable.

You live with what you are dealt, or end up, for instance, like Australian aboriginals who in the main, sit around and complain about what was or what should be, not what is.

clearly all of the issues raised in all of the aricles on this over the last week have some relavance.

the only question up for debate is, how much?

Social conservatives have not been suggesting family breakdown is the only issue, just top of the list.

welfare cutbacks would be another item on the list, further down in priority.

Mr. Martin's logic fails when compared to other instances of crime. If the enticing nature of the consumer culture is to blame for the riots, then , in rape cases it's not the fault of the rapist, but the women for being sexually alluring in the first place. Of course no one would dare argue such a thing, but using Mr. Martin's logic consistently such a crime can be legitimized.

"Nation Building and its Immigration basis has social and economic COSTS that are calculated to be externalised to the community, not businesses or political players. This to make the politicians and CEOs LOOK GOOD. More importantly to attract princely remunerations... like holidays in Tuscany while riots are brewing."

Nation Building has morphed into an erosion of DEMOCRACY. At best it has become a gigantic GERRYMANDER for successive incumbent Governments and at worst it has diluted the rights and voice of individuals as communities are swamped with foreigners who have more of the Governments attention and GST money than brow beaten taxpayers.

Everyone is angry and the frustrations are bursting out both in the UK and Australia in the first instance at the level of mobile youth.
It is unlikely to stop there.

DEMOCRACY is for the people who vote NOT for Foreigners. Currently just about anyone of 6 billion people in the world can claim more taxpayer money then any Australian citizen under the false guise of humanitarian assistance. In reality taxpayers requiring the same assistance are ignored and treated meanly.

This is a recipe for Civil War. The riots are just the beginning.

IMMIGRATION for Political power and CEO profit is a blunt tool to enforce entrenched UPPER CLASS structures in both Australia and the UK.

Its TIME people understood this and voted NO to further immigration.

Otherwise you had better get used to bad treatment and the subsequent riots.