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Bonmot,

Now here is your tutorial in decency and liberal attitudes. Stay awake now.

Indeed you didn't use the term "minimifidianist".

Here is where it originated.

'...it should have been "minimifidianist". I felt denialists deserved a more impressive title to cover for their unimpressive credentials....
Posted by Squeers, Wednesday, 29 June 2011 8:05:48 AM

I erred and I am sorry for any offense.

Now for your lesson.

Part 1.

That was an example of decency at work.
I haven't ignored your protestation.
I checked, found my error and have corrected it..

Unlike you, I haven't ignored the proof I found or could have been refered to thereby compounding the error and increasing the original level of offense.
Nb. No evasion nor weasel words.

Part 2.

In situations like this commonsense and common practise would be to point out the error and ask for a retraction and/or apology. That allows everyone to maintain a civility, sense of balance and courtesy. ie liberal behaviour

Screeching abusive terms like 'Liar' not only inflames what could have been sane and sensible debates but tends to turn them into yelling matches.

Nb. It is one of the reasons Parliamentary debate bans the use of such words ... but of course you'd know that.

Now I think you have the opportunity to retract and apologise for your original allegation of Liar and secondly apologise for you intemperate attitude ... as is usual for parliamentarians using such language.

Poirot

Thank you for your reasonable behaviour especially your tolerance.

I had started writing my response to bonmot prior to your posting. So I'd claim you have proved my point.

However you are quite wrong. I am used to debating with people of all levels of intellect, and try to treat all with equal respect ... regardless of intellect.

I tend to become less than tolerant with individuals, who should know better but who deliberately set about denigrating and abusing others when maintaining, by becoming involved in debate, they have the intelligence to conduct sensible debate. They often show they assume knowledge equals intellect. It doesn't it is only one part of intellect. They do tend to think superior specialised knowledge is singularly more important than logic, commonsense, comprehension and expression.

Darn, I missed the best bits, my only question is that Shadow Minister and Col Rouge are hardly restrained when casting out insults (Gizzard and Juliar), reading this thread appears somewhat biased with their less than courteous posts remaining. Maybe all comments should be deleted?

No there was some reasoned debate on all sides of the political spectrum.

Dunno what the answer is, but have to wonder what Lexi said that was worse the ad hominem style of Col Rouge and Shadow Minister.

Here Shadow Minister starts by insulting Lexi and refers to Julia Gillard as Juliar - http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=12356&page=0#213743.

And Col Rouge: "Julia Gizzard has tripped and fumbled across the political stage and failed with every policy initiative attempted in the course of her Prime Ministerial Tenure (Like Krudd before her)". http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=12356&page=0#213706

It is a shame that neither Col nor SM can deliver quotes with the intellect of Margaret Thatcher, whether one agrees with her or not she can at least opine without the vitriol.

A look at the early term of Gillard's term:

"The laziness that characterised Australian foreign policy in the late Howard era was replaced by a new energy and a search for fresh answers to problems. Perhaps it was all too much, too soon: more might have been achieved had the focus been narrower. Nevertheless, there is a good platform for this parliamentary term.

What about the Gillard government's international team? Starting at the top, Julia Gillard is a tough, decisive politician with a strategic brain and substantial personal charm. She comes to the job without a lengthy foreign policy curriculum vitae. So did most of the previous occupants of The Lodge, including John Howard and Robert Menzies.

Gillard's announcement of the Timor solution was not ideal. On the other hand, her stewardship of the post-election period, in which she comprehensively outmanoeuvred her opponents, shows her potential as an international negotiator...

...There are certainly factors that could derail the Gillard government's approach, including internal strife. But a fair-minded observer would see foreign policy as a strength for the government and a weakness for the opposition."

http://www.brookings.edu/opinions/2010/0918_australia_foreign_policy_fullilove.aspx

Ammonite,

I just turned Lexi's words about me around, as she used them first, and I wanted to make a point.
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=12356#213728

I also see that a whole lot of people have had their posts deleted for abuse, and Lexi was one of them, also Bonmot, Poirot etc.

Julia Gillard Lied, that's why we call her Juliar.

The name is a whole story in one word, beautiful!