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By Cheryl Kernot, published 18/7/2011Pollies, police and media proprietors are probably more incestuously close in Australia than in Great Britain.
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Posted by rstuart, Monday, 18 July 2011 11:02:13 AM
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Interesting comments from a promising Party Leader then sad Labor casualty.
To the perceived combination of media, police and senior politicians should be added lawyers (the Crownies formula?). Its natural that PM's talk to captains of industry even if the industry is media. Murdoch's power on several continents (eg. the US Oval Office) made/make talks with him a diplomatic event. Its natural that people share insights - which can be beneficial. I imagine the combination of interests here in Oz are so close that not much will be revealed until some Deep Throat talks - with the risk of being nailed by all sides. Pete Posted by plantagenet, Monday, 18 July 2011 11:27:39 AM
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Kernot failed to present a list of how much News Corporation (Murdoch) actually owns in Australia. Can't understand why as it supports her argument.
News Corporation owns: Newspapers The Advertiser and Sunday Mail (Australia) The Australian (Australia) The Courier-Mail and The Sunday Mail (Australia) The Daily Telegraph and The Sunday Telegraph (Australia) Gold Coast Bulletin (Australia) Herald Sun and Sunday Herald Sun (Australia) mX (Australia) The Mercury and Sunday Tasmanian (Australia) Northern Territory News and Sunday Territorian (Australia) Perth Now (Australia) Sunday Times (Australia) Weekly Times (Australia) http://www.cjr.org/resources/?c=newscorp In the "land-of-the-free": Television Cable Television FOX News Channel FOX Business Network FOX College Sports Fox Deportes Fox Movie Channel Fox Pan American Sports (33%) Fox Regional Sports Networks FOX Soccer Channel FOX Sports Enterprises FOX Sports Net Big Ten Network (49%) FSN FUEl TV FX Nat Geo Wild (71%) National Geographic Channel United States (71%) SPEED STAR Stats, Inc. (50%) Fox Television Stations WAGA (Atlanta) KTBC (Austin) WUTB (Baltimore) WFXT (Boston) WFLD (Chicago) WPWR (Chicago) KDFW (Dallas) KDFI (Dallas) WJBK (Detroit) KRIV (Houston) KTXH (Houston) KTTV (Los Angeles) KCOP (Los Angeles) WHBQ (Memphis) KMSP (Minneapolis) WFTC (Minneapolis) WNYW (New York City) WWOR (New Jersey) WOGX (Ocala-Gainesville) WRBW (Orlando) WOFL (Orlando) WTXF (Philadelphia) KUTP (Phoenix) KSAZ (Phoenix) WTVT (Tampa Bay) WTTG (Washington D.C.) WDCA (Washington D.C.) Satellite Television BSkyB (39%) FOXTEL (25%) Sky Deutschland SKY Italia Sky Network Television Limited (44%) TATA Sky (20%) Other Television FOX Broadcasting Company FOX Sports FOX Sports Australia FOX Television Stations MyNetworkTV Film 20th Century Fox 20th Century Fox Espanol 20th Century Fox Home Entertainment 20th Century Fox International 20th Century Fox Television Fox 2000 Pictures Fox Music Fox Searchlight Pictures Fox Studios Australia Fox Studios LA Fox Television Studios Blue Sky Studios Twentieth Television 20th Century Fox Licensing and Merchandising Premium Movie Partnership (Australia and New Zealand - 20%) Newspapers (U.S.) New York Post The Wall Street Journal The Wall Street Journal Digital Network SmartSource (Coupons) Be afraid, very afraid. Posted by Ammonite, Monday, 18 July 2011 12:12:26 PM
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If we can only look with open eyes at this problem.
If we can take the time to ask just in what way did the police get involved. It is not true that they partnered the NOW or that that paper was the only one doing the wrong thing. Police take bribes, all over the world, do many know the big yellow arch sells them food at much less than us. Murdock has form, only some one not wanting truth could not know he pays Penny's for influence and gets pounds and control in return. From the first single page news pamphlet ever printed the printer wanted more than cash in return, influence and control power are Murdock's wants. His father in Adelaide Goggle it! Had Australian Prime Ministers stand before his office desk hat in hand and call him Sir! Murdock's papers are under orders, get an election get rid of Labor. It is almost sure that will happen. While we toss our fears of Brown and his greens about We forget, most of us, Murdock has more influence than any of our leaders. Can I say this? is truth a defense? I truly believe Murdock not voters run My country, we are but servants to his bank cash/influence and fear of falling out with him silences us. Posted by Belly, Monday, 18 July 2011 1:15:46 PM
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I just love the way the likes of rstuart- a genx/yer for sure address public intellectuals like Ms Kernot, formerly senator, formerly right honourable member for Dickson, as 'Cheryl'. My generation was never allowed to refer to our parents friends, teachers etc in any way except by their title. Aunty, uncle,Mr Mrs then Ms and so on. So someone who has barely begun to shave can be so insolent? Thats the internet for you. Opinions, and not intelligent discussion. Even at uni in a tutorial setting one had to come up with a rational argument and not resort to bullying tactics.
Posted by Hestia, Monday, 18 July 2011 2:26:14 PM
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Sorry Hexia I truly found your pomposity harsh.
I have met our Cheryl, never considered calling her anything else. I have much doubt the right Hon best describes any one in any Australian Parliament. If rstuart is indeed a youngster, how do you know? Would you be ok if he said you or I are old fogy's? Posted by Belly, Monday, 18 July 2011 4:06:06 PM
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Hestia,
I'm sure that in your day it was also acceptable for parents to beat their children and men to beat their wives. It was also acceptable to vilify people based upon their racial origins or their sexuality. Times have changed. Get used to it. You attack rstuart for the manner in which he addresses the author but make no comment on the substance of his or her response. In "your day" people were accorded respect simply because they were born earlier. Now-a-days we are concerned more with the content of their character or the wisdom of their words. Posted by Rhys Jones, Monday, 18 July 2011 4:13:09 PM
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Good on ya Cheryl!
PartTimeParent Posted by partTimeParent, Monday, 18 July 2011 8:00:13 PM
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@ Belly.
Rupert Murdoch is also a Protestant extremist like all his Neocon buddies,their "higher purpose" is a facet of this whole drama that's unsurprisingly filtered out of mainstream media, As we all know Neoconservatives are really only about as "conservative" as Lenin's Bolsheviks. There's been a lot of nonsense written about Murdoch's ancestry, let's just say he's more Oliver Cromwell than Theodor Herzl but it's no secret, actually a matter of pride for both sides that they can work so well together. Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Monday, 18 July 2011 10:30:23 PM
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Ms. Sheryl Kernot,
The title of your script is not exact. It should have been: Corporations, Pollies and Journalists,in that order, are too cosy...everywhere. Posted by skeptic, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 7:09:38 AM
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As I was saying earlier in this thread:
"..until some Deep Throat talks - with the risk of being nailed by all sides" Here's the latest from London: "SkyNews 9:05am UK, Tuesday July 19, 2011 A former reporter for the News Of The World (NOTW) who blew the whistle on the extent of phone hacking at the paper has been found dead at his home." * Potential Aussie whistleblowers need to realise what they'd be up against. Pete * this is the incredibly long SkyNews string http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/Former-NOTW-Reporter-Sean-Hoare-Who-Made-Hacking-Claims-Found-Dead-At-Home/Article/201107316032796?lpos=UK_News_First_UK_News_Article_Teaser_Region_1&lid=ARTICLE_16032796_Former_NOTW_Reporter_Sean_Hoare_Who_Made_Hacking_Claims_Found_Dead_At_Home Posted by plantagenet, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 6:35:33 PM
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Yes Plantagenet."Kill the chicken to scare the monkey" Attributed to Mao Zedong.Sean Hoare admitted he was frightened for his life.They will shut down this investigation with fear like they always do since Murdoch Media is implicated in tapping the phones of 911 victims.If this is proven then he is in really big trouble because he cannot say it was an isolated incident.
Also,911 is a huge can of worms since the scientific evidence conclusively points to the use of highly sophisticated explosives being used which the press refuses to publish.http://www.ae911truth.org/ Posted by Arjay, Wednesday, 20 July 2011 9:19:13 AM
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Arjay
Where's the "Left"on 911? Nowhere to be seen, just like their silence on Libya, the GFC, Banksters etc. The venerable and oft quoted leftist blowhard Phillip Adams even went so far as to call into question the sanity of 911 truthers such as the "Jersey Girls", he believes we're all Nutters. Leftist U.S mouthpiece NPR even produced a special the other day linking Truthers with "The far right" and "Racists". Anyway, back to topic...sort of. Professor Michael Hudson interviewed last week on radio KPFA Berkley, a brilliant, plain English talk on the state of play and highly relevant to this discussion: http://archives.kpfa.org/data/20110713-Wed1300.mp3 Transcript here: http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=25676 Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Wednesday, 20 July 2011 12:44:06 PM
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-14219430
Good lawd no! quite normal, you should see how often it is here. Only 12 months shown but before elections, the traffic is huge! Posted by Belly, Friday, 22 July 2011 7:26:39 AM
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And as for this:
"Beyond the confronting UK examples of alleged bribery and illegality we should be asking what systems we have in place to allow us to presume that it can't happen here. ... There are no real sanctions here or there."
Is Cheryl suggesting there some stronger signal than being forced to show down your most profitable newspaper? It wasn't shut down because some oversight committee forced it to be. If anything it is a rare example of how well self regulation and the market can work.
All these weak excuses seem to be justifying Cheryl's desire to impose her own standards on news reporting. For what it's worth Cheryl I don't like tabloid reporting either, but I solve the problem by going to the ABC. Solving it by allowing the likes of Cheryl to set the standards might bias things towards my preferences in the short term, but only while Cheryl gets to set the agenda. In the long term it's seems far safer to let the press have a good deal of independence on what they publish.