…And should Australians learn lessons from Germany? Imagine our world in Australia where liberal and Labor coalition to oppose the Greens…

…Arise Sir Galahad, the extreme far right (NPD) assembles at the ramparts of tradition….(Col)?….

COL ROUGE
“Collectivism, be it called Socialism, Communism, Maoism, Fascism, Bolshevism or Greenism, and” (rightly, according to Rys Jones) Democracy “is always the same:-an Authoritarian Government despotically directing the lives and choices of the individual people it was supposed to be there to serve”

Col Rouge the calling of our Government Democratic does not change the fact that we are oppressed by those who succeed in depriving us of our powers.

@ MAREELORRAINE:

Thanks for your civil clarification. Of course you're entitled to your opinion, but expect to be challenged when you present it as fact. You said "for a country to be democratic then we must be governed by more than 50% of the vote. That is not Australia to-day".

I disagree, and said so. Australia *is* governed by a coalition of elected representatives of more than 50% of the electorate. It's simply Coalition spin that the Greens on 12% are governing the country - the Greens can do nothing without the ALP and the Independents. Undoubtedly, a condition of Greens support for a minority ALP government is dependent upon negotiated compromise. In this case, the carbon tax had previously been Coalition policy and is designed as a precursor to the ETS that was previously both the ALP's and the Coalition's policy. It is therefore not a radical proposal that has no support elsewhere in the parliament. Indeed, there is wide support on both sides for a market-based response to AGW.

It sounds like you have more of a problem with your understanding of our electoral system, which is understandable but no basis for forming a sensible opinion. If you are truly interested in strengthening our democratic system, you ought to be agitating for multi-member electorates in which members are elected by proportional representation: i.e. if the Greens get 12% of the vote they get 12% of the seats, ditto with all parties. Preference deals should be banned prior to elections, as should those stupid 'how to vote' cards, and allocation of preferences should be optional for voters.

You should also note that Col Rouge and the other anti-democrats favour the 'first past the post' voting method - which *guarantees* that the winner will represent less than 50% of voters, unless they win by an outright majority. Of course, these are the 'winner take all' types from the 'major' parties who think that only they should participate in government.

Morganzola "You should also note that Col Rouge and the other anti-democrats favour the 'first past the post' voting method '

nothing anti-democratic in what i say - a tiny minority of idiots voted a couple of greens into government and they are now dictating to a facile labor minority, helped out by a few renegrade independents who have betrayed their electorate

the Liberals are the Majority party

and certainly, at the next election, the Liberals will operate with an overall majority...

Labor will be able to hold their annual MP Christmas party in a telephone box and the Greens will be gone

and for you, Morganzolo, the worst thing is

You know I am right

footnote, on the topic of the need for Carbon Taxes and the fraud of climate change

I received an invitation this week to a dinner where the speaker is

President of the Czech Republic, Václav Klaus.

his topic for the speech

"The Global Warming Doctrine is an ideology, and is the biggest threat to individual freedom in the 21st century."

One European who is breaking ranks from the pack of lying "watermelon" toads behind the climate change fraud....

I doubt the lying prime minister of Australia will attend.. she would be booed out of the dining room and left to eat crow.....

@ Col Rouge:

Thanks for a more civil tone. However, please never make the mistake of imagining that you know how and what I think. As in this case, I can assure you that I wasn't thinking what you wrote at all.

Once again I'm in awe of your name-dropping abilities. I'm sure you'll have lots of fun with Mr Klaus, who will undoubtedly be grateful for such pearls of well-informed wisdom as you proffer here.

I've met Bob Brown a few times, and guess what? It turns out he's absolutely nothing like you imagine and describe him as - nary a hint of Trotskyite nor Bolshevik about him... But he's just really good at concealing it, right?

Col Rouge: "the Liberals are the Majority party"?

I your universe maybe, but not according to the parliament of Australia.
http://www.aph.gov.au/house/members/memlist.pdf

Seriously man, get a clue. Try and get a grip on what's happening in the real world and stop making things up to conform to what you want to be happening.

At almost no time in living memory have the Liberals ever been the majority party, whenever they have ever formed government it was always as a coalition with the Nats.

That's also why they prefer preferential voting instead of first-part-the-post.