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Governments can’t comprehend it, but a partnership is not a dictatorship : Comments

By Everald Compton, published 5/7/2011

Australia needs a more robust model of public private partnerships.

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We have to overcome the widespread belief that all governments are democratic, honest, competent and pure while private investors are not. The fact is that governments are not wonderful and investors are not all bad. We need to harness the best elements of both for the benefit of balanced national development. Everald
Posted by EVERALD, Wednesday, 6 July 2011 12:01:00 PM
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All, I'm not sure if you're trying to make a joke or if you are being serious.

When a private company owns infrastructure, to which there is virtually no alternative (roads, cables, water, gas, electricity, airports, trains)- how exactly are they not holding a 'monopoly' and who exactly are they competing with?

As opposed to a government, who are competing with other parties for the rate-payer's vote?
Posted by King Hazza, Thursday, 7 July 2011 8:12:42 PM
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I really do not know what retort I could give that would not be construed as offensive with that comment King Hazza; but that sounds like an Absolutionist Monarchies, or even a Republican mantra;
But can only say that it is every individual persons responsibility to have at least a basic understanding of Economics and what actually is Politics and not what we think is politics ; and then of course some Factual History .

As far as your comparative Market for votes, yes exactly and well said:More Tax money not spent on roads or your Infistructure ; “Demagogic support”, every Despotic Government needs support from the public and when the public is made ignorant due to the Monopoly control of Pedagogic Institutions; Primary – Secondary – and Tertiary Education (Moral and Ethical Conditioning Gulags), It is much easier for them to go about Robbing and pillaging unchallenged and uncontested.

It has the Monopoly over the entire field of life and Grants Monopoly privilage to who it wants

I suppose if people do not start to rationally reason, and question the actions of Government without instituting the Mythical Capitalisms Corruption and Exploitation envy garbage, then we are in for a very very dissapointing future ; if that has not already arrived.
The larges and by far the Greatest Monopoly of criminality and oppression and Exploitation in its own self Interest is your beloved Government ; Did you ever ask yourself ; Where does Government get its Capitol? Compulsion and theft.
Have a look at a picture of Industrial Detroit Before , and have a look at the Ghost City of Detroit; Vandalised ruin of today; Government at work. Looking out for your future. So now you can know why you have bike tracks instead of roads; It is Government , so stop complaining.
Posted by All-, Friday, 8 July 2011 11:35:58 AM
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All-, I could reply, but your own post full of talk of despots and slavery helps my standing look even better, so I don't even feel the need add anything more for the moment;

Especially considering you avoided answering my last questions.
Posted by King Hazza, Friday, 8 July 2011 3:32:32 PM
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Very well King Hazza, But I did answer your first question; Governments do not compete for your money , that is a fallacy, they acquire your money by compulsion, and if you do not believe me, don’t pay them and see what happens to you.

And I may assume you are talking about Macquarie Bank ? , well, that I agree, and that isn’t private enterprise , and on your terms, BUT, you must understand that No one can compete with Macquarie Bank Infistructure ; simply because it is a Government sponsored Mercantile Duopoly ; and answers to know one , not even consumers ; and yes King Hazza ; The State. Political Economy and socialized Economy.
1850 in France; Listen to this Audio file Written by Freidric Bastiat.
http://mises.org/media/6418/Socialism-Confounds-Government-and-Society
Posted by All-, Friday, 8 July 2011 5:22:01 PM
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Actually my question was how does any body owning infrastructure compete?

I pointed out that between a private company and an elected government or other public body, the private company competes with nobody because it is holding an asset that people need and don't have a choice but to consume; while the government competes with alternate parties- as one is accountable only to shareholders on the basis of how many shares they can afford to buy, while the other is automatically accountable to the public during elections (although a more direct-democratic setting, such as Switzerland, is more preferable- but that is for another thread- although that is related to the need to counteract corrupt governments doing business with MacBank).

Even compulsory payments are identical to a government owned or privately-owned estate; they assume ownership of the land, and charge you for the right to occupy it; You would be treated the same way under the law if you refused to pay your private landlord as much as if you refused to pay your government; the only difference is the government isn't allowed to evict you, but must instead relocate or imprison you; while a private land owner can get you arrested, but is only allowed to evict you, but not imprison or relocate you.

My point is that the only difference between a public asset holder and a private one is that the public one is actually accountable to its own ratepayers without any adversity upon the ratepayers (that is, public they vote- private they can't).
I'd actually prefer public referenda superseded both- but choosing between the two above, the public entity IS the more competitive.
Posted by King Hazza, Friday, 8 July 2011 5:59:46 PM
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