I have concerns about the selling off of Australian Land,and our utilities. What will the effect and cost be to Australia in the long term?

Australian Utility companies (ESSENTUAL SERVICES) sold to foreign investors. Since the sale the price's have continually increased!
Apart from the initial sale where the government made money. It is my understanding the only money the government gets now is the G.S.T. this may explain why the government refuses to regulate and control the price we are forced to pay as they now rely on the G.S.T.

Australian companies which once were owned by Australian. To name some but not limited to; Kraft, Sanitarian foods, Hienze, Australia government owned telephone service, etcetera, sold to foreign investors.
Some of the companies re-locating of shore and at the cost of Australian men and women's jobs.

As you have stated Foreigned owned Australian companies, farms and now the mines contribute nothing financial to the Australian people or the government apart from the workers taxation.

How many foreign workers have and will be imported into Australia to work at the foreign owned investments? Again at the cost of Australian men and womens Jobs?

In the long term Australia will totally be owned by foreign governments, especially the Chinese Government.

What then Will their laws replace ours? Will their customs, relidion and traditions have priority over ours?

As I recall prior to the WORLD WAR 2 Japan infiltrated many South Pacificate with their military people posing as civillian workers.

Many of the Pacific Countries were captured quickly by the Japanese as soon as they declared war.

What guarantee do we have that this won't happen again? Especially with the mass of Muslem Refugees entering Australia. Their religious beliefs, culture and traditions are total opposite to ours.
They are allready attempting to have Moslem law included in with our laws.

The Australian government is considering relocating many of our defence forces to Western Australia and the Northern Territory. our greates threats are from countries closer to that side of Australia! Mostly Muselem Countries! Why I ask. Do they know something we dont?

I know that it is a silly question, but I'll ask it anyway.

When the government moves to restrict foreign investment in Australia, will they at the same restrict Australian investment overseas?

Are we now resigned to the fact that we are such a right little, tight little island, that we don't need the rest of the world, thank you so much for coming?

Some people simply won't be happy until we close the doors, hunker down in our humpies and tell each other stories of how horrid foreigners are, and how we are just so lucky to be Strayan.

Pericles try buying land or a mine in China then get back to us

Pericles, I am a passoinate and loyal Australian. As I posted earlier my concerns about where Australia is heading and the end results and what they may be.
I am concerned about the lively hood and freedoms of future generations of Australians.
I don't know your age but I do know mine, which is drawing to an end.
For 6 decades on this planet earth and in Australia I have never seen it deteriate has it has been doing in the last 2 decades.
Most of my spare time is used in researching and alarms are ringing.
Our governments no longer serve the people, this is evident when you watch them sell Australia to foreign governments and investors.
At the rate its going we the people will have nothing. We will be enslaved by foreign powers.
Take note of Kenny's comment which I agree with. Try and invest in land or mines in China. I'm curious as to the answer you would get.
I dont know if you are aware that the Commonwealth Government of Australia is a Registered Corporation on the USA Securities and Exchange Commission. Their number is 000 080 5157 and ABN 122 104 616
As you can see I research.
Cheers

“TWO of the biggest and most established sugar mills in north Queensland are set to pass into foreign ownership.

Proserpine was sold yesterday to a Singapore company and Tully looks as though it will be sold to Chinese interests.

Sucrogen [now foreign owned] produces about half Australia's raw sugar supply and owns four mills in the Burdekin region near Ayr, two in the Herbert region near Ingham, and Plane Mill south of Mackay.
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http://m.theaustralian.com.au/AustralianFinancialMarkets/pg/0/fi308212.htm

Once someone owns the sugar mills, they can control the sugar cane farmers, and more than 50% of the sugar mills are now foreign owned.

It is important because sugar cane grows on flat land with high levels of sunshine and rainfall.

In that regards, it is some of the most important ground in Australia, and now so much is being controlled directly or indirectly by foreign companies.

The selling off of the farms is exactly why the small Aussie townships are dying, the smaller farms are being dismantled to be made into hugh farming envelopes with minimal manning and most probably with imported staff on a rotational basis back to their own country when their visa runs out.

The government makes it as hard as possible to buy a farm and build a house on it that most give up in anguish, I know I just jumped through all the hoops and it WAS draining on the psyche.
When these big corporations or government organisations buy they buy 4 or 5 properties then they strip the fences out and only require a couple of sheds that dont require certification.

The less properties that are distrubited over our country the less population.

Does the FIRB or the local or state or federal governments think about the actual consequences for all involved or is it strictly money?

As long as we believe in this Globalist BS,our standard of living and sovereignty will be on the downhill run.We have a philosophy of short term gain for the least pain,while China the oldest civilisation on the planet is patient and hard working.

China also has many Govt banks which create new money to equal GDP debt free.We have private banks that create all our new money as debt.Who are the fools?

That is exactly what I have been stating. We the people have no say anymore. We have or are being enslaved in our own country. People are beginning to wake up. We need to do something quick or it will be to late. Gillard refuses to have anything go to a referendum of the people and by the people. Our governments are content to sell everything of value in Australia to foreign powers and investors. The only hope we have of putting a stop to it is by the people uniting and stop it now or our children and their children and so on will suffer in the long run. We are a christian country, with christian morels whether you are a christian, an agnostic or athiest we still live by christian morels and standards. Foreign powers and corporations do not care about us the people, they are only interested in owning our country and enslaving us.

Whilst I have a real concern over the long-term impact of this trend on soverienty and food and water security, some commentators are a little shrill.

I agree completely that if Australians cannot operate as foreign investors in another country, then companies or governments from those countries should be restricted here. Fair is fair.

However, there are plenty of Australian businesses operating in China, so that is perhaps not the best example to pick. A better one would be Canada - fine for two Canadian giants to buy up our ag processors/suppliers, but not ok for our BHP to buy one of their companies.

MickC, the Australian rural population has been in decline since about the 1920's. I agree that it is a lot more noticeable to me now then 30 years ago when I was a kid. But then even 30 years ago there were at least 3 houses on my dad's property that were nothing but rubble, and one that no longer existed at all as it had been pirated to extend onto our homestead. Those that have survived have done so by a combination of frugalness, cleverness, good business sense, being land-hungry, and pure luck (some combinations different to others). Since I was born the farm went from about 15,000ac to about 40,000ac. I was raised to believe that living simply and as tightly as possible were the most important things, so that debt could be paid off quickly and the next block of land bought.

Like I said though I do share the concerns of those already noted, and would like to see (a) a lower level of investment have to come before a review panel and (b) the findings and reasonings of the review panel to be made public. There needs to be some surety that long-term consquences are being considered.

Arjay wrote, "China also has many Govt banks which create new money to equal GDP debt free. We have private banks that create all our new money as debt.Who are the fools?"

Have you read "The Web of Debt" (2007, 2008) by Ellen Brown? It opened my eyes. It shows to be false the view that money has any inherent value of its own. All it is is a measure of actual wealth.

If we abolished private banks and governments assumed the right to print as much money as there was real wealth -- cars, houses, computers, machinery, food, raw materials, etc. (and not shares, bonds, etc.) -- and no more, as the British American colonies until the middle of the 18th century, then we would not have the cycles of financial crisis that we now face. Until the private British banks made the British government outlaw colonial government ownership of banks and forced colonial citizens instead take out loans at interst from them, instead. Before that, the colonies prospered, after the publicly owned baning system was closed, the colonies suffered severe econmoic crises. That is what caused the American Revolution of 1776. Unfortunately, after much underhanded manoevering and dispute in the subsequent history of the US, the private banks regained firm control of the US banking system in 1913, when control of money was handes across to the private cartel of bankers known as the Federal Reserve. The US and the rest of the world have suffered greatly as a result, ever since.

(Arjay: I stayed at your place late in 2009. You kindly put me up for one night at your residence, when I was stuck for somewhere to stay during a weekend interstate visit. In May last year, I was hospitalised as a result of a road accident. That is one reason I have been so little in touch since then. When I can recover my e-mail folders on the computer I was using then, again, I will contact you by e-mail.)

Not so long ago, resource poor Japan attempted to control our resource rich Nation by force. Nowadays, China can afford to buy us, lock, stock and barrell. New Zealand defends itself by registering foriegn ownership of more than 5 (five) hectares. I assume that in the not too distant future, we too, will understand the general acquisative strategy and defend ourselves.

In the long run it will all be about food. Remember that the first bit of business on Earth was about food (an apple I recall). The second last bit of business on Earth will also be about food - and whoever controls food production resources will enjoy the last bit of business.

In between times, I believe we must control our own resources. Yes, invite investment but maintain 51% control - just like Chinese entities demand in their negotiations with our companies. And if the pace of development is slowed by this demand, so be it. That will only increase profitability if productivity of limited resources suffers. Finesse will be required but I'm not sure that we are good at that. However, I'm confident that we will learn, given the associated challenges - and time.

I wasn't going to bother, gypsy, but these little irrelevancies seem to have a life of their own, unless someone picks up on them.

>>I dont know if you are aware that the Commonwealth Government of Australia is a Registered Corporation on the USA Securities and Exchange Commission. Their number is 000 080 5157 and ABN 122 104 616<<

The Commonwealth of Australia is indeed recorded with the US Securities and Exchange Commission, as required by US corporate requirements. The reason for this is to allow the government to issue financial instruments in the US. Here is the latest filing.

http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/805157/000134100410001939/coa_18ka.htm

The Commonwealth of Australia is also recorded with the Australian Securities and Investment Commission, under ACN 122 104 616 (not ABN; that has two more digits at the front)

As ASIC explains, it is there under the category "Non-registered entity", whose definition is "An organisation that is not required to be registered with ASIC but whose name appears on our database because, under the terms of its incorporation, the organisation is required to lodge certain documents with ASIC"

What is not clear is why you feel it necessary to draw our attention to this trivia. And if it is just about that "writ of mandamus" furphy, forget it.

http://www.freestatevoice.com.au/politics/item/531-stop-press-prerogative-writs-of-mandamus-served-in-the-high-court-today

Just another internet joker having a lend of the gullible.

>>As you can see I research. Cheers<<

But research what, gypsy?

And I'm sorry, but I have to chuckle at the naivete of this...

>>Pericles try buying land or a mine in China then get back to us<<

Ummmm... what with, Kenny?

Legally China has limited rights to land that it purchases but the land laws of the "parent" country can be changed so that the benefit to China is more fairly shared.

Today China can take the produce of the land for itself without having to pay for more than the cost of labour, fertilizers and machinery without sharing the advantage over other Australians that this land ownership confers. It also needs to cover the transportation costs of bringing the product to its own people.

But when tax moiney is spent in improving the roads and communications to the Chinese-owned land, it becomes more useful and productive (since the transport costs of the produce are lowered) yet China will not compensate the Australian government nor its people for this investment in infrastructure.

The same principle applies not only to China but to any land owning monopolist. Land ownership consumes some of the rights that should go to everyone who lives around the region, yet they are taken by the land lord. By taxing land values, this benefit is restored. Australia has some experience in taxing land values and these procedures should be applied to the Chinese held land in common with the rest.

Of course farmers object, but the advantages that their land give them and the limited access that their ownership allows the rest of the community are detrimental to the country at large.

TAX LAND NOT PEOPLE; TAX TAKINGS MOT MAKINGS!

Pericles perhaps you have better research methods and knowledge than mine. Constructive critisism is always of value in learning and gaining knowledge.
As previously stated in my earlier posts I spent most of my spare time in research. Unfortunately it only started January 2010 when I discovered we have had a Constitution since 1900.
I have been advised that the Commonwealth of Australia was and is a registered company on the U.S.A. stock exchange and that all of our birth certificates are registered as financial stock with them.
Our birth certificate stock gains financial interest for our entire life and when we die our government cashes it in and claim it. Perhaps I have been given false info again. Maybe the few who have learnt this knowledge and benefited by it are lieing.

Maybe it is all to do with global marketing. China is buying dirt and taking it to china in boats, in the form of iron ore. The WA landscape is changing, endless plains then a mountain, only to find someone is tearing it down, to make more endless plains. When the easy ore runs out here they will get it from south africa. Australia will then be left with the more expensive ore to retrieve. There will still be a couple of bumps left on the landscape, because WA says it will not mine uranium.

You might need to be a little more careful when selecting your sources, gypsy.

>>I have been advised that the Commonwealth of Australia was and is a registered company on the U.S.A. stock exchange<<

A registered entity. It is not a company. But in order to sell securities in the US, you need to register yourself, and to publish regularly the details that are relevant to anyone buying or selling those securities. Governments, as well as companies. As EDGAR tells you:

"The Commonwealth of Australia files Annual Reports on Form 18-K voluntarily in order for the Commonwealth of Australia to incorporate such Annual Reports into its shelf registration statements"

That's all. Nothing sinister. You are free to access these documents via the EDGAR system, to see exactly what is being filed.

>>...all of our birth certificates are registered as financial stock with them<<

Not true. As you can see, if you check EDGAR, where the reports are filed.

>>Our birth certificate stock gains financial interest for our entire life and when we die our government cashes it in and claim it.<<

How would that work, do you reckon? From whom do they claim, and how much cash changes hands? If you think about it, what you wrote there makes absolutely no sense at all. Where did that idea come from?

>>Perhaps I have been given false info again.<<

On balance, I'd say that this would be the case. The question really is why would anyone bother to invent stuff like this? Especially as it makes absolutely no sense at all.

>>Maybe the few who have learnt this knowledge and benefited by it are lieing.<<

Once again, all you have to do is consider what benefit they could get from it, even if they had it. Think of the number of non-government organizations that already have access to your birth certificate information - insurance companies do, for sure. Why would any government need to buy or sell this information?

Good luck with your researches. As I said, have a think about your sources. And apply a reality check, every so often.

Hi again Pericls.
Well regarding the Birth Certificate. I checked back to the source of my information and queried as to how and where they came about the information. They explained it more in depth which enabled my own search and low and behold I have discovered the following;
In 1953 the Australian Reserve bank purchased our entity birth certificates and transferred them to the Reserve Bank of America who invested them on the American Stock exchange.
We the Australian living flesh and blood people are the Agent for the all CAPITAL letter name example JOHN DOE.
A trust account was set up with a ghost department of the Australian Taxation Office in Canberra.
All of our Birth Certificates have a CUSIP number which is the file and equity number of our shares.
Apparently we can not close the account and collect the cash, but any debts such as in the name of the all CAPITALS entity can be paid out from the profits of the stock.
I am continuing into the research.

In some countries foreigners cannot purchase land or any fixed assets. They can only lease it, perhaps for a long period.