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Confronting Australian attitudes to refugees. : Comments

By Jo Coghlan, published 22/6/2011

The SBS social experiment: Go back to where you came from?

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To Shalmoneser

Joh Bjelke Peterson was Queensland’s longest ruling Premier, and he won succesive elections because he represented Australians, not Bantus, Somalis, Lebanese, Sri Lankans and everybody other foreigner on the planet. What he did was poetic justice to people who think like you, and it is the reason why so many Queenslanders held him in such high regard and kept voting for him.

I attacked the messenger, because I seriously object to black hearted villains like yourself blatantly distorting the facts so that they conform to what their predetermined idea of what reality ought to be. You might have gotten away with it with other contributors, but I have done my homework, and I look forward to dissecting whatever false statistics you post up in the future to support your Alice in Wonderland worldview.

I know how embarrassing it would be for you to just come clean and ruefully admit that the 55% of the handgun shootings in the entire state of NSW in 2000 which occurred within two notorious ethnic ghettoes, are a searing indictment on the behaviour of certain ethnicities whos continued immigration into this country you champion. Because if you did admit the self evident truth, your whole position would be out for a duck. So it is not surprising that you have chosen to squirm and spin doctor rather than admit that ethnic crime is a serious problem which Australia could have avoided entirely with a discriminatory immigration program.

However much you avert your eyes, and dream up novel ways to interpret the statistics so that things don’t look so bad, the statistics are not going to go away, and they are plainly displaying that your position is inimical to the welfare of your own people.
Posted by LEGO, Friday, 24 June 2011 5:34:57 PM
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*Don't patronize me Yabby*

Actually Bronwyn, I was more offended by you thinking that we would
believe that kind of garbage.

*The Convention will be out of date when there are no refugees left to make it relevant*

That is as logical as saying that the tax laws will be out of date,
when we don't need to pay taxes anymore. Laws should be updated
to suit present circumstances. If loopholes are discovered in the
tax laws, they should be closed. The same applies to the Convention.

*The vast majority of boat arrivals in particular are consistently proven genuine.*

As others have pointed out, there is no proof that they are genuine.
They simply jumped through the required hoops, often with clever silks to assist.
Meantime the system is costing huge amounts,
which is hardly money well spent. Take them all from refugee camps,
those wasted resources would be more wisely used on genuine cases.
Posted by Yabby, Friday, 24 June 2011 7:08:19 PM
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What am I?
Ammonite,
Come again ? How the hell should we know if you don't. What do you see yourself as ? I'll go along with what you tell me.
Posted by individual, Friday, 24 June 2011 7:47:07 PM
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Jay of Melbourne, were you having a go at me? Some of us take a break now and then, you know ;)

Anyway, to address your question: I agree that private corporations running prisons, etc., is problematic, although not for the reasons you advance.

To suggest that corporations like SERCO, dislikeable as they are, are running a 'racket' on a par with the trans-Atlantic slave trade is both histrionic and historically flawed. The rest of your comment read as little better than wild-eyed conspiracy theories.

However, "when is a government not a government?" is a valid question.

The basic problem with privatising prisons is that the state is thereby abrogating one its core - indeed, one of its few rightful duties to its citizens.
Posted by Clownfish, Friday, 24 June 2011 11:13:05 PM
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Bronwyn
<< Regarding the Iraqis flying out of the country, very few do that. The interpreter did, as part of a one-off deal in recognition of the fact he'd risked his life interpreting for the Coalition forces and was subsequently in grave danger as a result. >>

Clearly you are making it up as you go.
The “interpreter” ( and, we only have his word he was one) made no mention of a special deal ( yes some interpreters did get special deals ) but this gentleman by his own admission arranged his own exit . And it makes no sense that a “special deal”’ would have him flying to Malaysia!

<< The other two most probably drove or walked to Syria or Jordan first and may have flown from there to Malaysia, but equally may not have>>

Again, you are making it up
Have a look at a map and see how far Syria and Jordan is from Malaysia –then have another think about it

Bronwyn no doubt you have big heart and good intentions.
But devotion to boat people is not the noble cause it is made out to be.
Most of the boat people are economic migrants and exploiting the UNHCR and Australia.
Posted by SPQR, Saturday, 25 June 2011 7:03:49 AM
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@clownfish.
No I'm not having a go at you, just trying to inject some other ideas into the discourse.
Posters here have touched on issues of sovereignty in relation to border control, the SERCO issue is one aspect of that but I'll concede it's probably not something we as "small time" activists have any immediate power to change. The problem as always is money, if we had money we could investigate these "conspiracy theories", we could have research institutes devoted to studying the links and family ties of these "Globalists"....but we don't.
The similarities between the Slave Trade and the Refugee Industry are many if people care to look, I'll not de -rail the discussion further on this thread but there seems to be a persistent group of people operating down through the ages who have a "thing" for trading in human beings.
International population movement and open borders are the goals of Globalist capitalism, which as we know is not based in any one State, it's both extra territiorial and trans national entities.
Think back to the late 80's and early 90's "Anti Globalist" movements and look at the state of those same tendencies now, they all now support, you guessed it, open borders and unlimited transnational population movement.
In the past here probably was a case for this type of action in order to subvert states who were controlled by globalists, but as I've pointed out these entities, like SERCO are now pretty much extra territorial and out of reach of that type of activism.
All the "Left"and so called "respectable" conservatives are doing now is hurting Nations, that is to say people, as the real enemy is now out of reach.
Flooding White countries with Third World migrants in order to "get at" entrenched elites or eliminate "White Privilege" is no longer a viable, nor moral activity, it's just Genocide.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Saturday, 25 June 2011 8:06:25 AM
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