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What do we want? Equal Pay! When do we want it? Now! : Comments

By Liz Ross, published 22/6/2011

In the end what mattered was not the number of women in the industry, but the industrial strength and militancy of the union (and also their politics, in a more general sense).

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Vanna

My sister worked as an electronics technician for 20 years before switching careers. And she has chosen ideals over money.

And in addition to what Country Gal has to say, I'd like to see you tell anyone, face to face, in the nursing profession that they don't like getting their hands dirty or hard work.

You live in some alternative universe; women have always worked hard in fields, factories, massive laundries and in hunter-gatherer societies carry all the heavy loads.
Posted by Ammonite, Thursday, 23 June 2011 9:16:13 AM
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Country Gal
Gina Rinehart inherited a mining industry from her father. She has not built up an industry from scratch

If women want better wages, let them develop their own industry, and then they can pay themselves whatever they want.

Ammonite
I often work with people doing work outdoors in the sun and rain. About 95% are men.

I think the hardest work many women are doing right now is whinging about men.

Unfortunately, only a few academics in universities get paid for that.
Posted by vanna, Thursday, 23 June 2011 5:07:08 PM
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"But even by Rinehart's iron-willed standards, hers has been a remarkable battle to get to the top and deliver on her fathers unfulfilled dream: to personally develop one of his massive iron ore deposits into a working mine.

When Rinehart tool control of the family company as a single mother of four following Hancock's death in 1992, her fathers estate was bankrupt and the business laden with debt." BRW Rich List edition.

http://www.brw.com.au/p/sections/features/first_lady_gina_rinehart_6WcwDFk35eClsSwPzZzWqN

Oh sure thing vanna, sounds like the woman swans around and inherited all she has. If you actually read the link you gave about Twiggy, you'll get the gist that he didnt exactly being from a standing start either.

If OLO can be considered a cross-section of society then I think the number of men complaining about women just about equals what you think goes the other way. All you have to do is hop onto one of these threads to find out. Good sports such as yourself willingly oblige to prove my point. Thank you!
Posted by Country Gal, Thursday, 23 June 2011 10:41:15 PM
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Country Gal

There have been many new industries developed, but rarely have they ever been developed by women.

Invariably they are developed by men, and then women enter the industry and say the industry is being dominated by men, and women are being oppressed by men.

Here is a new industry that has enormous potential: Graphene

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YbS-YyvCl4

I wonder who will develope the graphene industry.

Some mere male I suppose.
Posted by vanna, Friday, 24 June 2011 7:00:15 AM
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Such a typical man - completely impossible to satisfy!

Vanna: Women dont like dirty work
CG: Explain the women in dirty industries
Vanna: There are hardly any
CG: Go look at a mine
Vanna: But women cant develop a mine
CG: But Gina Rinehart DID
Vanna: But women cant develop an industry

Whats the matter, dont like being proven wrong so you have to keep lifting the bar?? Face it mate, there are plenty of powerful, successful women out there. Watch out - one might look down her nose at you today.

End of the day, there should be equal pay for equal work. Single mens and married mens wages are just ridiculous - a dinosaur from the past. Your pay should reflect your productivity. If you are a smart worker and can produce more for less effort, you should be rewarded for that. I am paid less than my male counterparts because at the moment my productivity is less. I dont really care (but anticipate that they will whinge and cry poor in about 3 years when my long-term revenue-building strategy pays off).
Posted by Country Gal, Friday, 24 June 2011 8:01:35 AM
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Country Gal

You are threatening Vanna's worldview, without which he will be unable to function. No matter how overwhelming the evidence of female contributions throughout history (despite the restrictions) Vanna will believe what Vanna wants, it suits his insecurity that he believes women are helpless parasites.

Feel sorry for the man.
Posted by Ammonite, Friday, 24 June 2011 8:07:54 AM
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